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post #2236 of 3200
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Completely agreed! Thanks to you I am getting a lcd3 mjolnir rig soon. Think I might go for a different dac though, maybe an anedio d2 or even invicta eventually? Nonetheless it will be a HUGE upgrade over my gr07 rig right now haha.

Dude, you must have got some serious Xmas $$$ smily_headphones1.gif
post #2237 of 3200
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post

Completely agreed! Thanks to you I am getting a lcd3 mjolnir rig soon. Think I might go for a different dac though, maybe an anedio d2 or even invicta eventually? Nonetheless it will be a HUGE upgrade over my gr07 rig right now haha.

Before you jump the Schiit. Gather what you're looking for in a DAC, looks, synergy,feature set, etc. I think the Gungnir is one hell of an DAC and

it's very comparable to the Mytek 192, D2 or M51. Although I haven't heard the Invicta I considered it and I've heard nothing 

but good things i.e. It's one of the best DACS for headphones, etc. 

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Dude, you must have got some serious Xmas $$$ smily_headphones1.gif

hahaha I wish!! More like I have to sell a ton of my belongings rolleyes.gif

post #2239 of 3200
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Before you jump the Schiit. Gather what you're looking for in a DAC, looks, synergy,feature set, etc. I think the Gungnir is one hell of an DAC and

it's very comparable to the Mytek 192, D2 or M51. Although I haven't heard the Invicta I considered it and I've heard nothing 

but good things i.e. It's one of the best DACS for headphones, etc. 

Have you heard the d2 and m51? Some comparisons would be splendid. Finding a dac is such a pain. The problem I have with the invicta is that part of its huge price is all those extra features that I would never use and a headphone amp confused_face.gif

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The Invicta amp is quite good. It drove HD800s very well, to my surprise. Still there are features I could live without to bring the cost down, but they built what they wanted and it seems to be selling well. If I had to have an all in one that was very small yet sacrificed nothing, I'd probably have one already. Fortunately for my wallet, I have ample desk space!
Edited by Maxvla - 12/28/12 at 9:22pm
post #2241 of 3200
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post

Have you heard the d2 and m51? Some comparisons would be splendid. Finding a dac is such a pain. The problem I have with the invicta is that part of its huge price is all those extra features that I would never use and a headphone amp confused_face.gif

 

Yea, I have. The M51 was the better DAC to my ears, notably because I found the D2

a little laid back. I also found it to be a bit glary and thin comparatively.

 

However for the U.S. market the M51 is $2k. So the D2 is easily the better value 

and only marginally behind the M51.

 

I considered the Invicta and the Cantata. Amongst the Lio-8. But I decided on the PWD

because of prior experience (although not with Mjolnir) and price.

 

None of the DACs discussed are bad and in most cases they're not all that different.

It really comes down to preferences and use case.

 

If you don't need the features of the Invicta, then consider something else. And save some cash.

post #2242 of 3200
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@ghostchili
I got the Mjolnir and Gungnir for my LCD-2 and I'm thrilled with the combination. The power, dynamics and resolution are amazing and listening to music is exhilarating. I thought about alternative DACs, but my reasoning was Schiit developed the two products in tandem and I was assured they'd be well-matched (and they are). The Gungnir is transparent and the detail it pulls from recordings is breathtaking. The LCD-3 is also perfectly matched to the M+G. I honestly think of the M+G as one unit because the match is so seamless.
I have no doubt the BDP-105 sounds great, but who can say how it'll pair with the Mjolnir and the LCD2/3? The M+G+LCD-2/3 is a sure thing.

 

I really like the MJ with both the LCD-2/3 on the D2. PWD2 and Buffalo III DACs.  So the MJ will work well with just about any good DAC, ever better with some and more than others.  However, I now have the Gungnir, m51, Buffalo III and the PWD2 here with me now.  I don't have the Mj here any more.  From my listening and testing the Gungnir is behind all the other DACs.  The Gungnir has somewhat of a etch or more forward forward presentation compared to the others more smooth like butter presentation.  While all these other DAC cost more than the Gun.  They also outperformed the Gungnir in different setups.

 

Over in the m51 thread someone sold the Gungnir and preferred the m51+Mj for his HD800s.  The LCD-2s are a hard headphone to do analysis with.  They go good with pretty much anything.  When using something as picky as the HD800s you can really find what the amp and DAC is doing in regards to that headphone at least.

 

You would really have to listen to other DACs to make fair comparison for you.  

 

I got the m51 for $1400.  The Gungnir is borrowed.  The PWD2 and the Buffalo III belongs to me.  

 

I think the statement DAC is going to be way better than the gungnir and much more on par with the $2K and up DACs.


Edited by preproman - 12/29/12 at 7:16am
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Statement is supposed to be Schiit's take on an M51 style DAC.

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I'd like to try da Schiit, but if they try to tell me that I have to buy from headphonebar, forgetabboutit

post #2245 of 3200

Huh, that's new and kind of cool since a $10 mark up is nothing.  Shipping through Schiit was $65 and they don't lie on the duty form ;)

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@ghostchili
I got the Mjolnir and Gungnir for my LCD-2 and I'm thrilled with the combination. The power, dynamics and resolution are amazing and listening to music is exhilarating. I thought about alternative DACs, but my reasoning was Schiit developed the two products in tandem and I was assured they'd be well-matched (and they are). The Gungnir is transparent and the detail it pulls from recordings is breathtaking. The LCD-3 is also perfectly matched to the M+G. I honestly think of the M+G as one unit because the match is so seamless.
I have no doubt the BDP-105 sounds great, but who can say how it'll pair with the Mjolnir and the LCD2/3? The M+G+LCD-2/3 is a sure thing.

 

I really like the MJ with both the LCD-2/3 on the D2. PWD2 and Buffalo III DACs.  So the MJ will work well with just about any good DAC, ever better with some and more than others.  However, I now have the Gungnir, m51, Buffalo III and the PWD2 here with me now.  I don't have the Mj here any more.  From my listening and testing the Gungnir is behind all the other DACs.  The Gungnir has somewhat of a etch or more forward forward presentation compared to the others more smooth like butter presentation.  While all these other DAC cost more than the Gun.  They also outperformed the Gungnir in different setups.

 

Over in the m51 thread someone sold the Gungnir and preferred the m51+Mj for his HD800s.  The LCD-2s are a hard headphone to do analysis with.  They go good with pretty much anything.  When using something as picky as the HD800s you can really find what the amp and DAC is doing in regards to that headphone at least.

 

You would really have to listen to other DACs to make fair comparison for you.  

 

I got the m51 for $1400.  The Gungnir is borrowed.  The PWD2 and the Buffalo III belongs to me.  

 

I think the statement DAC is going to be way better than the gungnir and much more on par with the $2K and up DACs.

 

It's funny that your impressions on the Gungnir vs the M51 echo mine considering the exchange we had in another thread. wink.gif < note the wink.

 

The MJ is a fine amp for the HD800. These components are not inherently abrasive imo. People that have tagged the MJ as such should look to components upstream to isolate the source if this presents as an issue in their system. The "dogmatically vigilant" term coined by purrin is incredibly apt. It was also commented very early in the thread that these MJ impressions likely hinged on the quality/signature of the DAC. This seems to have been forgotten.

 

The Gugnir is a good DAC and is a significant improvement over the Bifrost. It matches very well with the ubiquitous LCD-2. Look elsewhere if you want refinement deserving of the HD800, HE-6, LCD-3 etc.

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As long as one hears the difference in cable burn in, that's what it matters. No need to scoff rolleyes.gif

olor1n always comes off as headstrong. If you take offense, just ignore him.

 

I like to pop balloons.

post #2248 of 3200

Yep biggrin.gif

 

I soon as I got it in I compared it to my other DACs.  It sure was the case.  IMO - it's also the case with the MJ with other DACs when compared to other Amps.

post #2249 of 3200
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Yep biggrin.gif

 

I soon as I got it in I compared it to my other DACs.  It sure was the case.  IMO - it's also the case with the MJ with other DACs when compared to other Amps.

 

Not as much as the Gungnir though. "Dogmatically vigilant", not abrasive. Agreed?

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Not abrasive at all.  Can get fatiguing if you're in it for the long haul.

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