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post #1981 of 3263
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So you enjoy the the T1's treble spike with everything other than rock biggrin.gif

T1's were too prickly for my ears. LCD's sound "right" and "truthful" with most music.

 

I didn't find the T1s to have a treble "spike" in the ways others have. They're great with rock, but lack the unique visceral quality that Audez'e cans have.

post #1982 of 3263
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This being the Mjolnir thread, I'll add some Schiit-specific content.

My Mjolnir arrives tomorrow, and I'm planning to spend a couple weeks comparing it with the BHA-1 driving the LCD-3. Should be lots of fun! I've seen the results of previous head-to-head comparisons, but nothing beats a comparison done in the comfort of your own home.

Looking forward to your impressions of the Mjolnir and lcd-3 pairing. I've heard mixed reactions so far. Someone said that it bests the BA / lcd-3 combo, while others have said they didn't pair well.
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Originally Posted by DarknightDK View Post

Looking forward to your impressions of the Mjolnir and lcd-3 pairing. I've heard mixed reactions so far. Someone said that it bests the BA / lcd-3 combo, while others have said they didn't pair well.

 

I thought there was some sort of consensus about the goodness of the LCD-3 / Mjolnir  pairing?

post #1984 of 3263
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Originally Posted by DarknightDK View Post

Looking forward to your impressions of the Mjolnir and lcd-3 pairing. I've heard mixed reactions so far. Someone said that it bests the BA / lcd-3 combo, while others have said they didn't pair well.

 

I thought there was some sort of consensus about the goodness of the LCD-3 / Mjolnir  pairing?

 

I've only read negative impressions of the Mjolnir/LCD-3 from one member (tokendog?). The rest have been full of praise. Far from mixed. 

post #1985 of 3263

Praise from me as well. LCD-3 fits the Mjolnir.

 

Used the Gungnir / Mjolnir a couple of days straight with HE-6 - and changed into LCD-2r1 late last night and continue today. The praise is left unaltered. :)

post #1986 of 3263
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

 

I've only read negative impressions of the Mjolnir/LCD-3 from one member (tokendog?). The rest have been full of praise. Far from mixed. 

 

Sorry, but that wasn't me.  I said the Gungnir + Mjolnir + LCD-3 is very lively.  The only combination I have enjoyed more is the Gungnir + V200 + TH-900s.  That's primarily because of the increased sound stage and clarity, plus the significant increase in comfort.  It isn't an issue with the Mjolnir, but more so the headphones.

 

The Mjolnir pairs very well with the LCD-3.  I actually didn't find a headphone that didn't pair well with the Mjolnir, though because of it's XLR nature, I didn't get to try all of my headphones with it.

 

The Mjolnir gets two big thumbs up from me.  It's some very good Schiit.

post #1987 of 3263

I listen to pretty much any kind of music. For me, my Gungnir+Mjolnir+LCD2r2 bamboo seem to excel with jazz, electronic, and hip hop/rap. It doesn't destroy the fun in my lo-fi recordings, but I think hard rock/prog rock/metal aren't the highlights (for me) like it seems to be for others. Maybe it's my specific pair of LCD-2's or just my ears.

post #1988 of 3263

For the price the Mjolnir is top shelf.  That said ultimately I found it too shouty and bright for my taste.  Which sadly still puts it in my top 5 amps because other amps have their own faults ;)

post #1989 of 3263
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Hey soup, let me know what you think about the mojo with the LCD3. I actually do not like it at all triportsad.gif, it's too bassy and incoherent in the lower registers compared to the HE-6 or HD800 imo.

 

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I got my Mjolnir and I been testing it out w/ the lcd3.  Its an impressive amplifier, but isn't without flaws.  

 

Spec’s wise its probably the most impressive amp I have heard.  You can really tell that 5 watts rms makes a difference.  The transient response, decay, and headroom are on par with the best I have ever heard.  It really makes anything else seem sluggish.  In this regard it slays my Concerto. Noise floor which is what usually bothers me most about amplifiers is as good as I can ask for.  Build quality is typical Schiit, flawless.

 

The qualms I have are more an issue of taste than objective inferiority.  It makes my LCD3 sound more like an HD800, with a very quick and responsive diaphragm, ever so slight uptilt in tonality, light and airy w/ massive soundstages.  The downside is it sounds more clinical, a bit thin and lifeless like an HD800.  I usually love this effect.  Infact I remember the pairing with the slightly darker lcd2 as what motivated me to buy the amp in the first place.  It really makes jazz, classical, a capella music and especially techno sound amazing.  On the downside, pop music, rock, hip hop sound aggressive, clinical and a bit lifeless.  Compared to my Concerto which I feel is the most neutral amp I have heard, I think the mjolnir has slightly too much treble energy.

 

A lot of people will read this and think this is a bad impression, but that's not really what I want to convey.  The amp's technical superiority over other amps is clear, but I think my taste preferences lie elsewhere.  I'll give it a few more days, but I will likely return this amp to get a WA22.  I have never heard the WA22, but I am hoping it has the muscle to control the diaphragm just as well w/o sacrificing body and emotional impact.  If I did not want to convert to a balanced set up, I’d probably keep my Concerto which I feel is competitively on par with this amp.

 

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

And the official A/B is complete.  Here we go...

 

The short of it is the Peak is staying and the Mjolnir is up for sale to the next lucky Canuck.

 

The long of it is a little more involved.  As with all my reviews this is in comparison, not global.  The Mjolnir is a detail and dynamics monster.  No question it will show you things that went unnoticed, clarify others and just flat out give you jaw dropping detail retrieval.  In the global sense of the word, its likely neutral as well.  But where it falls apart is in separation and staging.  The Peak is more natural, if a touch bottom tilted but what it does well is detail, though not at Mjolnir levels, and separation.  Things just never blend or become a wall with the Peak.  The Mjolnir despite great detail, tended to blend the bass lines into the mid mix.  Staging was mostly left to right, with comparatively more 3 blob staging than the Peak.

 

So in the end it becomes a trade off.  The Peak is more natural sounding, trading some detail and clarity for better separation and staging.  The Mjolnir has more detail retrieval and likely more neutral as well but can feel top tilted and fatiguing if, like me, you are sensitive to that.

 

Bring on the statement amp so I can drop my favourite tube in to tilt it back in my favour and have the best of both :D

 

Just some of the posts I was referring to which didn't think too highly of the Mjolnir with the LCD-3. But you guys are right, there are much more positive impressions of the pairing than negative ones. 

 

While I'm tempted with the Mjolnir, I'll wait to see what Schitt has up their sleeves for the statement amps.


Edited by DarknightDK - 12/6/12 at 6:55am
post #1990 of 3263

Me too - and until that shows up - I enjoy the Mjolnir. 

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I'll wait to see what Schitt has up their sleeves for the statement amps.

post #1991 of 3263

I'm starting to think it might be the gungnir that does not play well with the LCD3. To my ears, the gungnir/mjolnir as a combo do not play well with the LCD3. As I mentioned, the schiit combo seems to bring out a mid bass hump, and when blended with the LCD3, it does get a bit congested. On the combo, the lcd3 is the only of my flagships that play vocals in my head with certain songs, right between my skull basically. I despise that. I'm thinking of selling the mjolnir and get a S7; and I've already found two vintage amps that cost me near nothing that trump the mjolnir for my HE6.

 

If anyone is interested in the mjolnir, let me know


Edited by dleblanc343 - 12/6/12 at 10:19am
post #1992 of 3263

Has anyone had a chance to test how the Mjolnir handles things using RCA inputs from a DAC rather than the XLR inputs -- does it significantly diminish the quality?  

Thanks!

post #1993 of 3263
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Has anyone had a chance to test how the Mjolnir handles things using RCA inputs from a DAC rather than the XLR inputs -- does it significantly diminish the quality?  

Thanks!

Nope. I used (crappy) RCA cables to connect my gungnir+mjolnir together for a couple weeks and then I bought the Pyst cables when they came out.

 

The difference is minor and in no way what I would call "significant"

post #1994 of 3263
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Originally Posted by Erukian View Post

Nope. I used (crappy) RCA cables to connect my gungnir+mjolnir together for a couple weeks and then I bought the Pyst cables when they came out.

The difference is minor and in no way what I would call "significant"

isnt fully balance setup always bring out the best performance?
post #1995 of 3263
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isnt fully balance setup always bring out the best performance?

 

Depends almost entirely on the implementation. In the case of the Mjolnir, given equivalent quality single ended or balanced sources then the amp's output should be the same. So it's much more dependent on how good your source is, not necessarily whether it's balanced or not.

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