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If space is an issue most speakers amps would not be advisable. Typically they are not small

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Originally Posted by mikek200 View Post

OK,well,the only 2 amps I've tried are the PA2V2 & the Lyr...

 

I'm listening to some jazz,that came for a new cd..volume is set to 2oclock,...a tiny bit on the loud side.,but the old cryoed ears are still intake

I'm getting perfect clarity,.good strong bass..mids are fine..treble is great

 

If I did get a speaker amp,say a small t-amp,how much more improvement can I expect to get...20-30% ?

Again,this is the last thing,I want to do ,as I'm on a small desktop set-up.,and don't want to buy another amp for one set of headphones.

 

Wouldn't bother, unless you're talking about some transcendental T-amp.  Heard one of the Virtue tripaths for some time and while it dollops power over okay, clarity and detail isn't exactly a priority.  Without clarity and detail the HE-6 is no better than an LCD-2. 

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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

If space is an issue most speakers amps would not be advisable. Typically they are not small

 

Will have to try your Mjolnir sometime.  

 

x2 on speaker amp size.  And they get HOT.  

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Welcome to the world of the HE-6.  

 

Some one said before on here "The HE-6s are not headphones their speakers on top of your head"  It has been written many, many of time on here you just have to look and it's not hard to find.  I was going to sell my HE-6s because like most folks I thought my B22 was enough to drive the HE-6.  Yes my volume was at 3 o"clock as well.  I thought that was odd.  Until a fellow Head Fi'er brought over his 125 watt mono block with his 4-pin XLR adapter.  Man I never really heard my HE-6s before until then.  

 

This is the point where most of you are now.  The next step is just to try out a speaker amp.  Get yourself made a 4-pin to spades or banana clips adapter and go to your local Audio Store.  Hook them bad boys up to one of their speaker amps and be prepared to be like WOW..  

 

To gain the experience you have to experiment.

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Thanks preproman.....seems this hobby will continue to suck me & my wallet dry,until the end..it's like living with a vampire--unbelievable.

 

I'm a little surprised that the mjolnir,doesn't have enough umff..... to drive these things.

I am hell bent on keeping them though..

I feel the Lcd2's ,& the He-6 make a good pairing.

 

Will take your advise,and get those adapters you suggested ,& proceed from there..???..slowly.

Unless ,of course,I want to live my life at 3o'clock


Edited by mikek200 - 9/17/12 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by mikek200 View Post

Thanks preproman.....seems this hobby will continue to suck me & my wallet dry,until the end..it's like living with a vampire--unbelievable.

I'm a little surprised that the mjolnir,doesn't have enough umff..... to drive these things.
I am hell bent on keeping them though..
I feel the Lcd2's ,& the He-6 make a good pairing.

Will take your advise,and get those adapters you suggested ,& proceed from there..???..slowly.
Unless ,of course,I want to live my life at 3o'clock

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Originally Posted by mikek200 View Post

Thanks preproman.....seems this hobby will continue to suck me & my wallet dry,until the end..it's like living with a vampire--unbelievable.

 

I'm a little surprised that the mjolnir,doesn't have enough umff..... to drive these things.

I am hell bent on keeping them though..

I feel the Lcd2's ,& the He-6 make a good pairing.

 

Will take your advise,and get those adapters you suggested ,& proceed from there..???..slowly.

Unless ,of course,I want to live my life at 3o'clock

 

 

It's fine to live life at 3 o'clock if that's what you want..  Once you see / hear how well the HE-6 can scale it wont be surprising at all.  Here is a little amp that "elwappo99" uses:

 

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/a100

 

Looks like it will fit the bill - he did a review on it and the HE-6 vs. his LD MKVI+ as well.  For around $200 this is a steal.  It even has a volume control o it.

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Welcome to the party Happy Camper...

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

It's fine to live life at 3 o'clock if that's what you want..  Once you see / hear how well the HE-6 can scale it wont be surprising at all.  Here is a little amp that "elwappo99" uses:

 

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/a100

 

Looks like it will fit the bill - he did a review on it and the HE-6 vs. his LD MKVI+ as well.  For around $200 this is a steal.  It even has a volume control o it.

This is the one ,I was looking at ,before I bought the he-6's

See --great minds think alike

Paradoper a good friend,also recommended this to me..I will go over the review carefully.

I just had a cable made for the mjolnir/he-6,with a 4-pin xlr plug..I will call Trevor at Norse & see  about the adapters I need

I will surely try this one..many,many thanks.

You guys are the best !!

 

Mike

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Hi, all.  I'm very new here, but this thread piqued my interest.  I recently picked up a pair of LC2-v2's that for now, I'm driving with my Headroom Micro stack.  I'm in the very early stages of researching an upgrade and I'm curious as to the difference that I'd observe upgrading to something like the Mjolnir.  Or is that too much of an apples-to-oranges comparison.  I've also looked into the V100 and Burson Solo.  I'm trying to avoid upgrading to something from which I'll immediately want to upgrade again.


Edited by OPR8R - 9/17/12 at 11:05am
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Originally Posted by mikek200 View Post

This is the one ,I was looking at ,before I bought the he-6's

See --great minds think alike

Paradoper a good friend,also recommended this to me..I will go over the review carefully.

I just had a cable made for the mjolnir/he-6,with a 4-pin xlr plug..I will call Trevor at Norse & see  about the adapters I need

I will surely try this one..many,many thanks.

You guys are the best !!

 

Mike

 

 

I use Trevor as well Loves his cables.  However, for an adapter Brian at BTG Audio would be faster / cheaper and his cables are good as well.  

 

http://www.btg-audio.com/index.htm

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yes,I agree,Trevor makes ome beautiful cables,and at extreml fair prices as well..he even shipped one of my cable,express mail overnight {at his expense },due to some glitch in our communication.

Outstanding,customer support.

 

Also,Brian has just finished and has shipped my Maddogs'  & a new 10' cable,with his 8 strand cable-4-pin XLR plug

Another guy with fantastic customer support.

 

I will contact Brian,as per your suggestion,about the bananna plugs.

 

Again,tnx for all your help..this option will save me a bundle.

Mike


Edited by mikek200 - 9/17/12 at 11:14am
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With the HE-6s, I think 3 o'clock would only be a problem if it feels like the amp is running out of steam. It is lower on the attenuator dial that you are more likely to encounter channel mismatches, etc. So as long as the balanced Schiit is still delivering the sonic goods (impact and dynamics would be the ones I'd listen closely for) then I think you are find. No need to fear 3 o'clock in an amp of this design.
 

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I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make, but Mike is using the Bifrost as his DAC. He will be upgrading to the Gungnir, so perhaps going fully balanced

will help out the HE-6. The Lyr could drive the HE-6, however it wasn't ideal. I suspect Mjolnir will do fine (will find out tomorrow hopefully), but what needs to be hammered home

is headphone amps v speaker amps. 8w into 50 ohms is plenty to drive the HE-6, but comparatively to a speaker amp it will suffer in soundstage, details, and overall smoothness.

 

Those t-amps are good for the HE-6, but as far as how clarity and detail show through compared to Mjolnir...no one's commented.

 

I've heard a t-amp drive the HE-6 and it almost got the job done, then I heard some monoblocks and that revealed everything that was missing.

Mjolnir will mostly be used for my LCD's and Mad Dog's in mind, however I of course plan to try out the HE-6 just to see how livable that combo would be.

 

As good as a headphone amp can be with the HE-6 (which can be completely fine) a speaker amp opens up "another world" as far as performance.

post #1275 of 3168
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Originally Posted by zenpunk View Post

 

I don't think the Mjolnir has any issue powering the HE-6 and with most amplifiers the volume is actually an attenuator so if the amp is properly designed and the signal at the input isn't too hot people shouldn't be concerned with having to use most of the rotation available. I felt the Mjolnir only bettered the LD in the bass region, slightly  better extension and control.

The Mjolnir also impresses by the amount of details it throws but I thought it sounded etched compared to the smooth LD,  as a result the latter was more "musical". The Mjolnir treble extended also further but was very slighlty tizzy compared to the LD.

My LD is also fitted with TS 5998 and ECC35, which boost gain and improve the overall transparency of the amp compared to stock tubes. 

The Mjolnir sounded great with the HE-6 but I just preferred the LD. You might think otherwise

 

PS : Imaging and soundstage sounded more coherent on the LD, but that is likely due to the Tube "Magic" biggrin.gif


Thanks zenpunk. As I think I mentioned earlier, sounds like the classic tubes vs. solid-state distinction. Long live the LD VI and the Mjolnir! Viva powerful, affordable balanced headphone amps!

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