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post #61 of 672
4/13/12 at 1:13pm


Dude StarTacs were the best! I had one that would still be going strong today if it weren't for upgrades/obsolescence in analog cell technology.

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No but there will be one for the Motorolla StarTac

 



 

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post #62 of 672
4/13/12 at 6:58pm
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With the difference being that both of those are 24/192 capable and the DAC we were shown for the VAMP is 24/96...My point is, something's gotta give. Since its a 24/96 DAC, if we're paying the same price (or around the same price) as a CLAS, then the form factor better be small, or the battery better last damn near forever, or the amp section better be clean and grainless. Either that or the price drops. There's gotta be a gimme...y'know?
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post #63 of 672
4/13/12 at 8:04pm
So then what sampling/bit rate would be best? Our of curiosity. Obviously I'm misinformed...

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post #64 of 672
4/14/12 at 12:12am
My understanding is the iPhone (what this VAmp is for) can output only 16/48 max. Even if one uses FLACPlayer, it down-samples higher sampling rates. Am I wrong about this? AFAIK, only the the iPad & compatible USB DACs via CCK can output higher than that?

Despite what the actual DAC chip is capable of...
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post #65 of 672
4/14/12 at 6:16am

I have the same questions as AnakChan. On my iPhone I use the FLAC Player app for to listen to my 24/96 FLAC files, which are down-sampled to 16/44.1 or 16/48 (not quite sure which), because that is the iPhone's inherent max output. If VAMP can indeed play up to 24/96, does that mean my 24/96 FLAC files can be played at their native resolution with the iPhone? Or does it simply mean it can do up to 24/96 when connected to a computer via coaxial or USB (if that's indeed possible with VAMP), and for iPhone it still will only do up to 16/48?

 

Also, will the VAMP be released prior to M-100?
 

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My understanding is the iPhone (what this VAmp is for) can output only 16/48 max. Even if one uses FLACPlayer, it down-samples higher sampling rates. Am I wrong about this? AFAIK, only the the iPad & compatible USB DACs via CCK can output higher than that?
Despite what the actual DAC chip is capable of...


 

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post #66 of 672
4/14/12 at 11:06am

Oh lord I hope you can use it with a computer

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post #67 of 672
4/14/12 at 11:19am

I'm pretty sure that a higher bit-depth doesn't affect sound quality at all, it simply means that you can control the digital volume level without destroying the dynamic range of the signal.

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post #68 of 672
4/14/12 at 1:21pm
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I'm pretty sure that a higher bit-depth doesn't affect sound quality at all, it simply means that you can control the digital volume level without destroying the dynamic range of the signal.


Well, the TL;DR of the article Justin posted was that 192 was harmful to the ears and that 24-bit depth did little to nothing for playback, as high bit-depth is really only useful for mastering (noise-floor, etc.). According to the article, the highest playback fidelity is achieved through 16/44.1.


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post #69 of 672
4/14/12 at 9:56pm

All of the current DAC chips are 24/192 capable.  so nothing wrong with that compatibility.  just that there is no evidence that anyone can hear better sound at 24/96 or 24/192.  also, DAC chips tend to eat power when processing the high-res.  not good for battery powered stuff.

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post #70 of 672
4/16/12 at 4:51am
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Well, the TL;DR of the article Justin posted was that 192 was harmful to the ears and that 24-bit depth did little to nothing for playback, as high bit-depth is really only useful for mastering (noise-floor, etc.). According to the article, the highest playback fidelity is achieved through 16/44.1.
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Wasnt it 16/48?
And to add oversampling within the DAC/amp itself is beneficial for other reasons, and possibly digital volume control and effects such as equalizers, but not when it comes to file formats and audio SOURCES in general.

 

This is as i understand it, open to correction.

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post #71 of 672
4/17/12 at 8:54pm
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Some new developments... I'll update you soon, sorry for the delays but I'm trying to have samples for the HEAD-FI meet at the Village and V-MODA Fortress this weekend. it sounds INSANE!


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post #72 of 672
4/17/12 at 9:00pm
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16/48 is hardware max of iPhone output.  

 

WAV or AIFF?

 

I prefer AIFF now for metadata

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post #73 of 672
4/17/12 at 9:01pm
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I'm trying to have samples for the HEAD-FI meet at the Village and V-MODA Fortress this weekend

 

dammit!
 

 

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post #74 of 672
4/17/12 at 9:05pm

ALAC's been my preference.

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post #75 of 672
4/17/12 at 10:37pm

How does metadata support between ALAC & AIFF compare?  Clearly file size of ALAC is better but...
 

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