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post #796 of 1106
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

Of all he's heard, prepro has yet to disclose his choices and opinions in confidence.

Amateur - guilty. redface.gif

That's what makes this of some merit. No experience with previous gear of note. Just a relative snapshot of time to a relative noob to this level of DACs (from a CAL Sigma II).

Prepro has generously offered time with 4) $2k+ DACs and nothing more. No agenda, no profit. Well, other than the listening experience. cool.gif

Project 86 warned this would be a hard task and I wouldn't find much difference but slight preferences.

 

 

He's right.  Very hard to tell.  Unless you did like Chase did at the meet.  Go hide by your self and listen for a hour or so with each DAC.  It's almost impossible to compare DACs in meet conditions.  

 

Just make sure both are on the same level playing field.  They let your ears take it from there.

 

Enjoy:

post #797 of 1106
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Originally Posted by DTrewwye View Post

It was some time back, lemme check the Anedio D2 thread.

EDIT: You actually saw it before!  here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/568758/anedio-d2-dac-release/1155#post_9000923

DTrewwye - You are so right and thank you for the reminder smily_headphones1.gif
post #798 of 1106
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

Of all he's heard, prepro has yet to disclose his choices and opinions in confidence.

Amateur - guilty. redface.gif

That's what makes this of some merit. No experience with previous gear of note. Just a relative snapshot of time to a relative noob to this level of DACs (from a CAL Sigma II).

Prepro has generously offered time with 4) $2k+ DACs and nothing more. No agenda, no profit. Well, other than the listening experience. cool.gif

Project 86 warned this would be a hard task and I wouldn't find much difference but slight preferences.

 

Just messin' around HC. I trust you'll give an honest appraisal after an extended listen. I'm still curious if the other guy who wasn't impressed with the M51 gave it a fair shake too. His take that it doesn't stack up to the D2 is the first I've read. What firmware does the M51 have in place?

post #799 of 1106
I hope prepro will answer the question of firmware.

I'm listening to it tonight with Zoe Keating's "Into The Trees". The harmonics are insane. The plucked strings and stringed bodies all resonating at the same time is quite a task.
post #800 of 1106
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

I call shenanigans here too.

Eh, you don't have to listen to what I say. I have no skin in this game, I just posted what I heard, and what I heard is that the NAD didn't compete on the D2 or PWDIIs level. Take it with a pile of salt if you want, but telling me I didn't hear what I heard is kind of rude. I've even sold my D2 at this point to fund other ventures, but I will continue to recommend it to other people, it's an amazing dac for the money.
post #801 of 1106
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

I call shenanigans here too.

Eh, you don't have to listen to what I say. I have no skin in this game, I just posted what I heard, and what I heard is that the NAD didn't compete on the D2 or PWDIIs level. Take it with a pile of salt if you want, but telling me I didn't hear what I heard is kind of rude. I've even sold my D2 at this point to fund other ventures, but I will continue to recommend it to other people, it's an amazing dac for the money.

 

What? I never said that. You're being a tad precious bud.

post #802 of 1106
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post

 

What? I never said that. You're being a tad precious bud.

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post #803 of 1106
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post


Eh, you don't have to listen to what I say. I have no skin in this game, I just posted what I heard, and what I heard is that the NAD didn't compete on the D2 or PWDIIs level. Take it with a pile of salt if you want, but telling me I didn't hear what I heard is kind of rude. I've even sold my D2 at this point to fund other ventures, but I will continue to recommend it to other people, it's an amazing dac for the money.
 

SoupRKnowva, could you elaborate on what was better on the other DAC So many times we value different things, in addition to hearing things differently. No, hidden agenda here. I am perfectly willing to accept that the m51 has serious competition out there, including dacs that beat it. I just wonna get a better understanding here. And I think it is beneficial to have dissenting voices in threads dedicated to piece gear (where mostly everyone sings its praises), Even if you slam my beloved sac, I appreciate it -- just make it constructive please.

post #804 of 1106
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Originally Posted by Cante Ista View Post

SoupRKnowva, could you elaborate on what was better on the other DAC So many times we value different things, in addition to hearing things differently. No, hidden agenda here. I am perfectly willing to accept that the m51 has serious competition out there, including dacs that beat it. I just wonna get a better understanding here. And I think it is beneficial to have dissenting voices in threads dedicated to piece gear (where mostly everyone sings its praises), Even if you slam my beloved sac, I appreciate it -- just make it constructive please.


As i said in other threads that i posted about the meet. I didnt have a great deal of time with each, and it was in meet conditions. But ill say the thing that stuck out like a sore thumb to me on the M51 was just how narrow the soundstage was in comparison to the rest of the dacs that were present, other than that it was just kind of a gut response, which probably isnt the answer youre looking for, but considering the situation, and a lack of any sort of long term listening comparison, thats all ive got redface.gif

post #805 of 1106
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post


As i said in other threads that i posted about the meet. I didnt have a great deal of time with each, and it was in meet conditions. But ill say the thing that stuck out like a sore thumb to me on the M51 was just how narrow the soundstage was in comparison to the rest of the dacs that were present, other than that it was just kind of a gut response, which probably isnt the answer youre looking for, but considering the situation, and a lack of any sort of long term listening comparison, thats all ive got redface.gif

That's fair. Thanks!

post #806 of 1106
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Originally Posted by Cante Ista View Post

SoupRKnowva, could you elaborate on what was better on the other DAC So many times we value different things, in addition to hearing things differently. No, hidden agenda here. I am perfectly willing to accept that the m51 has serious competition out there, including dacs that beat it. I just wonna get a better understanding here. And I think it is beneficial to have dissenting voices in threads dedicated to piece gear (where mostly everyone sings its praises), Even if you slam my beloved sac, I appreciate it -- just make it constructive please.

Anyone compared the nad to the blue circle bc509 or metrum octave? Both are considered to be masters in 'natural' sounding.

post #807 of 1106
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Anyone compared the nad to the blue circle bc509 or metrum octave? Both are considered to be masters in 'natural' sounding.

I am interested in those comparisons as well.

post #808 of 1106
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Anyone compared the nad to the blue circle bc509 or metrum octave? Both are considered to be masters in 'natural' sounding.

 

In my system the m51 was a big improvement over the Metrum Octave.

post #809 of 1106
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Originally Posted by woodcans View Post

 

In my system the m51 was a big improvement over the Metrum Octave.


could you elaborate on that? what improved? Thank you.

post #810 of 1106
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Originally Posted by woodcans View Post

 

In my system the m51 was a big improvement over the Metrum Octave.

 

 

How do you like that OR5?  How much of an improvement did it bring?

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