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Here is a link to list of Android Phones working with external DACs: http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/2310

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My Note 1 (with ICS installed and rooted) did work with the Leckerton using that USB Recorder app (don't remember the exact name).

 

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I know that S4 supports USB audio out, and I'm not sure if S2 does(probably not), but S1 doesn't(I tried). And Note 1 doesn't work as well.

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@gordec You could take a look at the 250Ohm variant of the Beyer DT770... but its relatively big, so at least I would not want to take it with me every day. On the other hand I also do not understand people using an amp on the go -- when there are lots of nice headphones that are perfectly suited to mobile use and can easily be driven by a phone output.

 

The DT1350 does not pose any problems to an iPhone, so I guess it can be used with an S4 without an amp as well. While not as efficient as the M-100 they are still quite sensitive.


Umm no, speaking as someone who used to own a DT1350 for a good year the DT1350 sounds it's best amped. Yes the iPhone can drive it to a loud volume but it sounds sloppy without an amp behind it.

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Umm no, speaking as someone who used to own a DT1350 for a good year the DT1350 sounds it's best amped. Yes the iPhone can drive it to a loud volume but it sounds sloppy without an amp behind it.

+1 S3 cannot drive it properly, that's why I said S4 might not be able to. DT1350 shines only with an decent amp. Leckerton pairs well with it too!

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Umm no, speaking as someone who used to own a DT1350 for a good year the DT1350 sounds it's best amped. Yes the iPhone can drive it to a loud volume but it sounds sloppy without an amp behind it.

 

While it does scale with a good amp its IMO by no means necessary to use one (I do not speak about SPL, thats the least of my problems). And not worth the hassle to carry with me / keep in my pocket together with my phone (especially since my Leckerton uses the 209 OP amp which does pick up interferences).

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Also, regarding the X3, would I be using the usb connection to connect it to the Leckerton or the line out or digital out port?

Do I need to install additional software or will it work with direct usb connection?

The X3 doesn't have a USB output (that would make it more expensive). But AFAIK, the Leckerton's DAC sounds better when fed through S/PDIF anyway, and that is exactly what the X3 can do.

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The X3 doesn't have a USB output (that would make it more expensive). But AFAIK, the Leckerton's DAC sounds better when fed through S/PDIF anyway, and that is exactly what the X3 can do.

The S/PDIF is the coaxial input in this photo correct?

http://www.leckertonaudio.com/wp-content/gallery/uha-6s-mkii/uha-6s-mkii_0190.jpg

 

Sorry for all the noobish questions. I thought that the S/PDIF is an output of some sort.

 

Please tell me if I got this right: 

 

Fiio X3 (coaxial output) -> Leckerton (Coaxial input)?

 

Also, what is the difference between coaxial output and the line out option of the X3.

 

Thanks for all your help!

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The S/PDIF is the coaxial input in this photo correct?

http://www.leckertonaudio.com/wp-content/gallery/uha-6s-mkii/uha-6s-mkii_0190.jpg

 

Sorry for all the noobish questions. I thought that the S/PDIF is an output of some sort.

 

Please tell me if I got this right: 

 

Fiio X3 (coaxial output) -> Leckerton (Coaxial input)?

 

Also, what is the difference between coaxial output and the line out option of the X3.

 

Thanks for all your help!

Yeah, you got this right about coaxial.

 

The line out is analog and passes only an amp section. So you get X3 digital signal→X3 DAC→[analog connection]→Leckerton amp. Through the coaxial output you'd get X3 digital signal→[digital connection]→Leckerton DAC→Leckerton amp.


Edited by hoichi - 5/24/13 at 9:43pm
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Yeah, you got this right about coaxial.

 

The line out is analog and passes only an amp section. So you get X3 digital signal→X3 DAC→[analog connection]→Leckerton amp. Through the coaxial output you'd get X3 digital signal→[digital connection]→Leckerton DAC→Leckerton amp.

That's so cool. So you got the choice to do whatever you want! 

 

Does the X3 have a better dac than Leckerton's?

 

Also, because the X3 has a dac inside, would it be possible if I can use it as an external sound card from my macbook? 


Edited by serious7 - 5/24/13 at 10:09pm
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That's so cool. So you got the choice to do whatever you want! 

 

Does the X3 have a better dac than Leckerton's?

 

Also, because the X3 has a dac inside, would it be possible if I can use it as an external sound card from my macbook? 

No, you can't use the X3 as an external sound card, unfortunately. It doesn't have any inputs.

 

I can't comment on the X3 DAC vs Leckerton DAC since I don't have either of them yet. They say that the DAC is not the best part of UHA-6S (it's good, but not as brilliant as the amp section), so I'd expect them to be somewhat close, so it might come down to personal preference. I guess we'll have to wait for more reviews and comparisons.

Anyway, since everyone seem to agree that the Leckerton is well worth it's money for the amp section alone and the X3 might be well worth it's money as a digital source alone (is there any other DAP with coaxial out, gapless, HD playback, extensible format support and so on for that price?), so if you're really interested in the Leckerton, you can just buy both and compare them for yourself. That's definitely cheaper than not using a DAC or an amp of something like the iBasso DX100.


Edited by hoichi - 5/25/13 at 7:08am
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No, you can't use the X3 as an external sound card, unfortunately. It doesn't have any inputs.

 

I can't comment on the X3 DAC vs Leckerton DAC since I don't have either of them yet. They say that the DAC is not the best part of UHA-6S (it's good, but not as brilliant as the amp section), so I'd expect them to be somewhat close, so it might come down to personal preference. I guess we'll have to wait for more reviews and comparisons.

Anyway, since everyone seem to agree that the Leckerton is well worth it's money for the amp section along and the X3 might be well worth it's money as a digital source along (is there any other DAP with coaxial out, gapless, HD playback, extensible format support and so on for that price?), so if you're really interested in the Leckerton, you can just buy both and compare them for yourself. That's definitely cheaper than not using a DAC or an amp of something like the iBasso DX100.

That is true. Thanks for the info! 

 

:) 

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And to clarify, the Leckerton DAC is actually quite good, it's the USB section specifically that is only 'decent'

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And to clarify, the Leckerton DAC is actually quite good, it's the USB section specifically that is only 'decent'

 

+1

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+1

Would a usb to optical converter help?

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I don't think sound quality via its own USB receiver is so bad you need to avoid it at all costs... No elephant here, just a tiny fly.

If you want to use it primarily with a desktop/laptop and own high-res audio files you might want to consider another product (there are several available). If your primary source is an iPad I don't think the difference is night and day -- plus you might get into compatibility troubles as not every high-res USB receiver works with the iPad (see the discussion about using the Meridian Explorer with the iPad).

 

The Leckerton is a really nice product that sounds good in its price range and offers a lot of features in a compact package. It does not do everything -- and thats *not* a bad thing ;-)

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