Originally Posted by Vlooienuker
Not all customs are better than universals. Also, some people prefer universals over customs maybe because isolation is extremely high or the audiologist did not mould their ear shape professionally and causes pain. I would love a custom but getting custom moulds here in New Zealand are hella expensive.
I accept that.
What I was trying to say (not very well, I grant you ) was that the SE535 and IE80 are now massively overpriced compared to available CIEM's from the likes of Cosmic Ears. I've heard an SE530 (not a 535) and an IE80 and I was totally unimpressed with both, for the price they are. They are totally overpriced, mass production IEM's - nothing wrong with their sound, I just don't think they are anything like worth their price, when I can get a $300 CIEM that sounds significantly better. I am well aware of course, that there are $1500 universal IEM's out there that no doubt blow a significant amount of CIEM's out of the water.
What I am questioning here is value for money. If Vsonic manage to produce the GR08 at such a pricepoint as it blows all its competition out of the water, then happy days, but if it comes in at $450 and you can get a CIEM that is better value for money, then it makes no sense to buy it, unless you have got some particular reason for not buying a CIEM. And I accept that there are reasons, for some people.
I'm a big fan of Vsonic's work. I have a GR07 Mk.II and a VC02 and I think both are excellent value for money. Having recently received a T-PEOS H-100 however, it blows my GR07 away and it's a similar pricepoint in the UK.
What I want from the GR08 is for it to be another defining product at it's pricepoint. $250 and best in its class, then I am in. $300+ and then in my opinion, other options should be considered.