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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

LOL, got anything new specifically on the GR08? It will get back on track as info arrives and the pseudo science fades. Until then folks interested in the GR08 have already stopped reading this thread because there's nothing to read other than a discussion of some of it's component parts etc.

 

 

So, according to your logic, the lack of new information regarding any specific product with a dedicated thread (in this case, the GR08) makes it alright for some to go to that thread and derail it with posts that aren't realated to the thread subject?!? That's just the oposite of the reason and logic behind a forum... rolleyes.gif

post #467 of 920

Okay putente, we'll only share Vsonic GR08 info here from this post on.

 

 

You started this thread in March, it's now November, I think I'll send Thousand Sound an email.

 

I can't recall who answered, but yes I emailed the new Engilsh / Swedish company and they won't reshell the GR07.

post #468 of 920

What is the expected price going to be? $350-400? I'm expecting a big VSonic WIN when this things comes out. 

post #469 of 920
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Originally Posted by putente View Post

 

 

So, according to your logic, the lack of new information regarding any specific product with a dedicated thread (in this case, the GR08) makes it alright for some to go to that thread and derail it with posts that aren't realated to the thread subject?!? That's just the oposite of the reason and logic behind a forum... rolleyes.gif

Why so serious? Point was that stuff happens and good luck with that. bigsmile_face.gif

post #470 of 920
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What is the expected price going to be? $350-400? I'm expecting a big VSonic WIN when this things comes out. 

$350-400 seems very steep to be honest, Vsonic is valued because of the price to performance ratio, at that price they are competing with the likes of Westone 4's or even lower end custom IEMs.

post #471 of 920
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Originally Posted by doublea71 View Post

What is the expected price going to be? $350-400? I'm expecting a big VSonic WIN when this things comes out. 

 

 

I guess the sweetspot for these would be $300, but we have to wait and see what VSONIC will decide. They are similar to the K3003 in shape and technology (and they add the detachable cable), and we know how much that costs...

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From Lendmeurears' facebook page "And for those who are curious about the eta of GR08, it will be late December or early Januaray. It is still rather difficult to pinpoint the exact release date as they have certain difficulty in manufacturing the product."

post #473 of 920
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It's just a random picture of diffraction.  What I mean is sound doesn't 'like' to travel down echoey plastic tunnels, I think the CK10 might use Titanium but I don't have a picture or blueprint of the nozzle.

 

It will depend on the matter, having a metal nozzle isn't always going to give you substantial gains, tuning of the driver itself is a lot more important. I would dare someone to take out that damper on the CK10 and see if the nozzle is truly metal inside, if anything a replacement damper can be bought and placed inside. 

 

The FR, THD and IR are only important if you're looking for an IEM with flat FR, low THD and fast IR decay........ I'm not sure if that's all we're actually looking for in an IEM.

 

That's the whole point of using better materials, to reduce resonance which will result in a more even response and low THD, etc. 

 

Even if two IEM's have identical THD levels, or one is higher, or similar impulse response, perhaps they just have different time envelopes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSR_envelope#ADSR_envelope, overtones or harmonics, which in turn result in a different and unique tone in each one..... after all there is no perfect IEM in THD, IMD or IR.

 

Overtones and harmonics are of the recording, the IEM's work is just to present what's given. Sure an IEM does add a tone as purity is impossible, but the parameters are mostly set by the main criteria in FR, THD, etc. in trying to get close to the source as possible, that's fidelity. 

 

If IEM's all had perfect IR, perfect square waves and 0.00001% THD, IMD... well then they'd all sound nice and transparent, open windows to the recording without any tone of their own (apart from the soundspace size and related 3D perceptions), in reality they all sound slightly 'different' and we can't really anlyze 'how' they sound different.

 

That's assuming perfection, which isn't a reality, even stuff with very outstanding technicality can be slightly different because of certain small characteristics. We can realize how they're different, one just has to analyze every detail. 

 


 

Here is an example, lots of THD and choppy square waves - http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/hifiman-re-262-and-re-272-ear-headphones-measurements, neither graph relates to human perception, and neither graph can tell me the differences between the RE262 and RE272

 

Which makes perfect sense, since graphs like that can't really tell me the difference between a clarinet and flute either, only show me a nonsensical difference.

 

Sure it can, they share the driver but the RE262 has more laid back midhighs and treble, focuses more on bass and midrange. I can deduce that by just looking at the FR graphs,  HRTF will relate it to human perception. If you can't make sense of it, that's another matter, if you're expecting it to tell you how you will perceive the sound and all the subjective factors involved, you're making ridiculous requests. 

 

post #474 of 920

If it's in the $300 range, I'll buy them tout suite. Saw that a local shop has the Ultrasone IQs in stock, but those are around $1k eek.gif
 

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Originally Posted by doublea71 View Post

What is the expected price going to be? $350-400? I'm expecting a big VSonic WIN when this things comes out. 

 

I would say the price will be between $250 - $300, I don't think it will be higher than $300

post #476 of 920
I'll put my vote down around the $350 - $400 mark.
post #477 of 920
My guess would be $400 or so considering the construction of the prototypes we have seen, this is not a simple and cheap earphone to make. I just hope it comes out before I get antsy and buy something else I might regret purchasing.
post #478 of 920
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

From Lendmeurears' facebook page "And for those who are curious about the eta of GR08, it will be late December or early Januaray. It is still rather difficult to pinpoint the exact release date as they have certain difficulty in manufacturing the product."

 

 

That timeframe makes sense, as usually VSONIC products are released first into the domestic chinese market and then take between 2 weeks and a month to become available to the rest of the world, first from chinese eBay sellers and then from Lendmeurears. Taking the new GR07 BASS as an example, it became available in China by the end of September (26th IIRC), by the middle of October (2 weeks later) you could get it on eBay from chinese sellers and Lendmeurears just started selling them this week...

post #479 of 920
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My guess would be $400 or so considering the construction of the prototypes we have seen, this is not a simple and cheap earphone to make. I just hope it comes out before I get antsy and buy something else I might regret purchasing.

 

^ This.

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