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Has anyone tried the CLIPS CS300? It only seems to be available on eBay and is rather cheap looking, but looks can - of course - be deceptive.

I don't get it.  What is there about this device that make it worth almost three times more than a budget APTx transmitter is worth?  Digital is digital.  One unit should not transit the 0's and 1's any better than the other?

And this device does not advertise any special features?

 

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Welcome to the board.

But your first post is advertising an overpriced device.  So I have to wonder if you may not just be the seller or mfg?

post #77 of 86

Thank you for your breathtakingly arrogant and presumptuous comment, @CZ Eddie . I don't even own a Bluetooth receiver, let alone work with a company who manufactures or sells them.

 

@james444 mentioned, calmly and eloquently, that he found the LG BTS1 to be superior to the Samsung HS3000. Perhaps you could explain, according to your theory, how they could be anything other than equal given that both simply receive (i.e. they are a 'sink', as opposed to the transmitter which is a 'source') 0s and 1s? I simply proposed a different unit for comparison and, indeed, made direct reference to its seemingly rudimentary qualities.

post #78 of 86
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Thank you for your breathtakingly arrogant and presumptuous comment, @CZ Eddie
 . I don't even own a Bluetooth receiver, let alone work with a company who manufactures or sells them.

@james444
 mentioned, calmly and eloquently, that he found the LG BTS1 to be superior to the Samsung HS3000. Perhaps you could explain, according to your theory, how they could be anything other than equal given that both simply receive (i.e. they are a 'sink', as opposed to the transmitter which is a 'source') 0s and 1s? I simply proposed a different unit for comparison and, indeed, made direct reference to its seemingly rudimentary qualities.

Bear in mind that this is the sound science , the one thing I found here in general is arrogance, not everybody but a lot of them are. They are only interested in shooting down any one who has a either a pure subjectivist view or even a more balanced subjectivist-objectivism view which I hold myself.
post #79 of 86

Of course there is also more to it than 'just being a decoder of lossless data'. 

The device needs a proper amplifier to actually 'cast' the analog audio into the world. 

 

I found the BTS-1 does not handle my headphones (Shure SE535) well and creates a ton of noise. I think it's the impedance (36ohm).. 

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I found the BTS-1 does not handle my headphones (Shure SE535) well and creates a ton of noise. I think it's the impedance (36ohm).. 

 

Hmm, I just tried with my SE530 (same impedance / sensitivity as the 535). Very low noise from my Galaxy S3, actually hard to tell the difference from driving it wired. :confused: 

post #81 of 86

Yup, different devices different results. Some do well some do not. My nexus 5 is completely silent (in the good way) while my macbook pro actually produces some minor noise. The BTS1 though is not good. Lot of noise.

post #82 of 86

^ I meant there's hardly any more noise with SGS3 > BTS1/aptX > SE530 than with SGS3 > cable > SE530 to my ears.

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^ I meant there's hardly any more noise with SGS3 > BTS1/aptX > SE530 than with SGS3 > cable > SE530 to my ears.

Curious. What age are you? After 50 the top octaves of hearing drop off, but maybe there's something wrong with my BTS1 too. It's really unbearably noisy for me. I doubt the SE530 -> SE535 gap makes a big difference here.

post #84 of 86

Had been considering the BTS1 but now eagerly awaiting release of the Sound Blaster E3. It'll serve pretty much all my needs as a portable DAC/amp that also features aptX receiver.

post #85 of 86
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Curious. What age are you? After 50 the top octaves of hearing drop off, but maybe there's something wrong with my BTS1 too. It's really unbearably noisy for me. I doubt the SE530 -> SE535 gap makes a big difference here.

 

I'm that age, but I'd say my hearing is still decent up to 16kHz. Besides, both the SE530 and 535 roll off considerably past 10kHz, and I've tested the BTS1 with brighter IEMs than the Shures without encountering major noise issues. Have you tried other IEMs besides the SE535, and if so, are these noisy too?

post #86 of 86
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I'm that age, but I'd say my hearing is still decent up to 16kHz. Besides, both the SE530 and 535 roll off considerably past 10kHz, and I've tested the BTS1 with brighter IEMs than the Shures without encountering major noise issues. Have you tried other IEMs besides the SE535, and if so, are these noisy too?

 

Certainly, although none anywhere near the quality of the Shures. Only a few random headsets like the ones that came with the BTS1. Pretty much dead silent with those. 

 

Also when I put my fiio7 headphone amplifier between the BTS and the headphone it improves things into the 'tolerable' level. 

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