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post #31 of 362
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Originally Posted by steve2151 View Post

Thanks for pointing that out. I've emailed Kingwa to see if we can get a price and output specs. I'm hoping that the amp on the Reference 10 is as powerful as the Master 6. 



 The fact that Input 1 is AES/EBU is a subtle but firm suggestion on Kingwa's behalf that this is aimed at serious enthusiasts and

 even professionals.

post #32 of 362

I got a response from Kingwa. No set price yet, but he indicates that it should be able to power the HE-6. 

post #33 of 362

Any updates on this? It's supposed to drop in a little over two weeks but I still don't see a price anywhere yet.

post #34 of 362
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Originally Posted by Sdmark View Post

Any updates on this? It's supposed to drop in a little over two weeks but I still don't see a price anywhere yet.



 Not sure about price but these will be rare - Kingwa is talking about 500 pieces of PCM1704UK here and there.

 

 The Ref 7.1 is set to roll out again (backorders and current) at 8 x pieces per unit - where does this leave the

 Reference 10 which will take 4 x pieces per unit?

 

 Hmmm,.,

 

post #35 of 362
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Originally Posted by Gwarmi View Post



 Not sure about price but these will be rare - Kingwa is talking about 500 pieces of PCM1704UK here and there.

 

 The Ref 7.1 is set to roll out again (backorders and current) at 8 x pieces per unit - where does this leave the

 Reference 10 which will take 4 x pieces per unit?

 

 Hmmm,.,

 

I'm not liking the reality of that observation...
 

 

post #36 of 362

I doubt it's as many as you think. He's not selling hundreds of these, more like dozens most likely- 1 or 2 in the last 2 weeks per the consignment page which equals 25-ish per year.

post #37 of 362

 

 What will happen of course if demand is consistently high is that we will see a ESS018 Sabre or possibly even

 a dual Wolfson 8741 version of the Ref 10 - no shortage of chippery there.

 

 On the second hand market this will create two resale prices, no prizes for guessing the PCM model will be

 the expensive jewel.

post #38 of 362

kingwa told me it would be around the same price as the ref 7.1, this was about 2 weeks ago

post #39 of 362

Needs a digital processing loop to be complete. :)

post #40 of 362

isn't that a DSP pictured in the middle column?

post #41 of 362

price is up...Ref 10 to expensive...frown.gif

 

 

Reference 10
 
4 pcs PCM1704UK,TE8802
Fully balanced DAC + Headphone amp + Preamp
I2S version: USD1790
USB version: USD1850 (Applied TE8802)
Shipping start at 15th April.

 

 

NFB-20
 
Dual WM8741
Fully balanced DAC + Headphone amp + Preamp
 I2S version: USD1430
USB96 version :USD1430
USB192 version :USD1480
Shipping start at 15th April.

 

 

NFB-6
 

Class A  ACSS Real balance 
Headphone Amplifier / Preamp

399(Promo) Shipping start at 15th April.

 

 

 

NFB-17
 

Dual Wolfson WM8741 DAC chips
(XRL/ACSS/RCA output, truly balanced DAC )

USB96 version: 399
USB192 version: 439
Shipping start at 15th April.

 

post #42 of 362

I knew this will cost as much as a reference 7.1, just look at what it offers. REF7.1 + Master5 is a little bit better but almost twice the price, but at least it's top of the (chinese) line. :)

post #43 of 362

Available for pre-order. Anyone going to be the first to bite and post a review? biggrin.gif

post #44 of 362

It's interesting that AGD has been quiet about the new 24/192 USB capability.  I don't use USB myself but that's huge news and puts them back up with the big boys.  Probably less of an issue with the ref10 since it uses the 1704UK R2R DAC design (which is considered 24/96 (though the most sought after 24/96))

post #45 of 362
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I think I want one.  Have to sell some other stuff to get it, or come out of retirement and get a job.  WAIT A MINUTE.....!  Did I say "get a job...?"

 

There's something seriously wrong with me.  Call the doctor, call the priest....confused_face(1).gif

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