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post #451 of 554

Just for the record, I am using the Hiface 2 with the latest WaveIO driver as my default device on my Windows 7x64 system and it works perfectly. I have it set for low latency (not minimum). I have to set it as default since I use it as my main source. I listen to movies and tv shows through my system using PowerDVD 14 with headphones and it works without issue routing through the Windows system default device (Hiface 2). I would guess your issues are specific to Windows 8. I have read somewhere that someone suggested not setting the Hiface 2 as default but in my case I am using it for all output so it works just fine for me in ASIO. I would contact M2Tech support about your Windows 8 issues. Just as a tip; I have also read that Hiface 2 does not like usb 3 ports. You might want to make certain that you have yours plugged into a usb 2 port. I also experienced problems when I upgraded my motherboard recently and first tried the Hiface 2 on a usb 3 port. I switched to one of the usb 2 ports and all the problems disappeared.

post #452 of 554

Thank you Chodi,

 

I also think the issues are with Windows 8 (or maybe just Windows 8.1), because they are identical on my two PCs running Windows 8.1, which have different hardware.

 

I did not set the Hiface Two as a default audio device (I want to use it only from within Foobar2000) and I used USB 2 connections.

 

Right now, I'm still hoping the pre-release 2.20 driver that the m2tech support sent me can fix the playback issue with Windows 8, but I'm unable to install it. I suspect the generic Thesycon driver setup routine has not yet been fully adapted to the Hiface.

post #453 of 554
Quote:
Originally Posted by Claude View Post
 

Thank you Chodi,

 

I also think the issues are with Windows 8 (or maybe just Windows 8.1), because they are identical on my two PCs running Windows 8.1, which have different hardware.

 

I did not set the Hiface Two as a default audio device (I want to use it only from within Foobar2000) and I used USB 2 connections.

 

Right now, I'm still hoping the pre-release 2.20 driver that the m2tech support sent me can fix the playback issue with Windows 8, but I'm unable to install it. I suspect the generic Thesycon driver setup routine has not yet been fully adapted to the Hiface.

I would be willing to bet that beta driver m2tech sent you is identical to the WaveIO driver I'm using. Last time Luckit posted a driver upgrade it took m2tech months to finally post the same driver as their own. I don't have Windows 8 and I don't intend to use it so I can't really advise you there.


Edited by Chodi - 1/25/14 at 12:42am
post #454 of 554

Dear HiFace 2 users, after reading most the posts dealing with system issues I thought I would share my experience running the HiFace 2 on linux (kernel 3.12.9).

 

1) I too had the situation where the HiFace 2 would playback for 3 seconds then stopped for no reason.

2) Cold boot would sometime leave the HiFace 2 undetected as if it was nt plugged in correctly. Re inserting fixed it and would yield situation 1) again.

 

For reference, I have two workstations (Dell Latitude E6420 and Precision M4700) and the Hiface 2 was usually plugged in the rear ports of the docking station.

 

Now none of those issues happened on the Latitude, but the Precision was not working correctly. After some time playing around with the USB ports I noticed that the issues disappeared on the Precision machine if the side USB ports were used. Checking the docking station manual showed that those ports are mapped to the USB2 controller while the rear ports are mapped to the USB3 ports operating in backward compatibility mode.

 

In short, the HiFace 2 simply does not play well with USB3.

 

For reference, you will find my .asoundrc file that I use with this configuration below (HiFace 2 --> VDAC II--> VCAN II). Two outputs are defined: a regular mixed output for general OS sounds (16/48kHz mixed) and a pseudo Bit Perfect output for use with music titles. This file can be found here: https://raw.github.com/zcecc22/zcecc22/master/.asoundrc 

 
# ~/.asoundrc
 
pcm.dac {
    type hw
    card 2
    nonblock true
}
 
pcm.dmixed48 {
    type dmix
    ipc_key 111111
    ipc_key_add_uid true
    ipc_perm 0660
    slave {
        pcm "dac"
        channels 2
        format S16_LE
        rate 48000
        period_time 0
        period_size 1024
        buffer_size 8192
    }
    hint {
        show on
        description "16/48 MIXED OUTPUT"
    }
}
 
pcm.!default {
    type plug
    slave.pcm "dmixed48"
}
 
pcm.!sysdefault {
    type plug
    slave.pcm "dmixed48"
}
 
pcm.bp {
    type plug
    slave {
        pcm "dac"
        channels 2
    }
    hint {
        show on
        description "BIT PERFECT OUTPUT"
    }
}
post #455 of 554
Quote:
Originally Posted by zcecc22 View Post
 

Dear HiFace 2 users, after reading most the posts dealing with system issues I thought I would share my experience running the HiFace 2 on linux (kernel 3.12.9).

 

1) I too had the situation where the HiFace 2 would playback for 3 seconds then stopped for no reason.

2) Cold boot would sometime leave the HiFace 2 undetected as if it was nt plugged in correctly. Re inserting fixed it and would yield situation 1) again.

 

For reference, I have two workstations (Dell Latitude E6420 and Precision M4700) and the Hiface 2 was usually plugged in the rear ports of the docking station.

 

Now none of those issues happened on the Latitude, but the Precision was not working correctly. After some time playing around with the USB ports I noticed that the issues disappeared on the Precision machine if the side USB ports were used. Checking the docking station manual showed that those ports are mapped to the USB2 controller while the rear ports are mapped to the USB3 ports operating in backward compatibility mode.

 

In short, the HiFace 2 simply does not play well with USB3.

 

I think the m2tech folks state in the literature that Hiface 2 works only with usb 2. I was under the impression that usb 3 was backwards compatible but that does not seem to be the case here. I have usb 3 and usb 2 ports on my computer and the hiface 2 will not work on the usb 3 ports. I get a few seconds of music then it shuts off. On my usb 2 ports it work perfectly. So much for usb3 compatibility. This would only really be an issue if you owned a computer with no usb 2 ports. That day is coming for all of us.

post #456 of 554

I've been using the HiFace TWO with several HiFace and USB drivers on USB 3.0 ports.

Never experienced any problems on Windows 7. Haven't tried Windows 8 and hopefully will never have to :).

 

My board is a MSI p67a-gd65 (b3 rev), the USB 3.0 controller is a NEC® uPD720200F1

My current USB 3.0 driver is Renesas 2.0.34.0.

 

I also had no trouble connecting my HiFace TWO on our college systems, again on USB 3.0 ports.


Edited by mischaverheul - 2/7/14 at 8:10am
post #457 of 554

Hiface 2 works fine with USB 3.0 (MSI p67a-c43).

There are new drivers - 2.19
.

 

Need optimized drivers for our device> register in the .INF file

 

link - http://rapid.ufanet.ru/65263123

 

 

-----------------------------------------------------
V2.19.0 (February 06, 2014)
-----------------------------------------------------

* New: New control panel application, improved UI, fully customizable

* New: New control panel also included in ST driver

* Fix: SPDIF renderer devices now supports hardware volume controls

* Fix: KS GetBuffer called at very high rate (@ sample rate)
  if there is a "no buffer" condition

* Fix: Firmware version in DFU GUI utility not shown as BCD

* Chg: Custom icon will be patched in DFU utility and control panel .exe.
  External .ico file causes problems because of Windows shell icon caching.

* Chg: If a device does not implement the Validity control in
  its clock source then assume that the clock is always valid.

* Chg: Avoid debug trace message in case bus driver completes
  isoch buffer untouched


-----------------------------------------------------
V2.18.0 (January 14, 2014)
-----------------------------------------------------

* New: Windows 8.1 supported.

* New: Manifests include Windows 8.1 OS.
       Signatures and .cat files include Windows 8.1 OS tag.

* New: Driver install packages are self-extracting .exe now
      (created with 7-zip) instead .zip files. This is to avoid
      warning messages about untrusted files in Windows 8.1.
      For more info, see also user manual section 6.2.


-----------------------------------------------------
V2.17.0 (December 20, 2013)
-----------------------------------------------------

Internal preview release, not for redistribution!

* Chg: audio class 1.0 feedback endpoint at high speed now supported

* Chg: generic child device builder now handles interfaces with
       bInterfaceClass=0xFF, but skips interfaces with no endpoints

* Fix: Stream format switching not working for DSD formats

* New: Statistics enhanced: sound device volume/mute + feature units


-----------------------------------------------------
V2.16.0 (November 26, 2013)
-----------------------------------------------------

* Fix: 32 bit PCM through WASAPI was not working

* New: DSD sample rate 22.6 MHz (DSD512) is supported if device supports 705600 Hz

post #458 of 554
Quote:
Originally Posted by WindofSirius View Post
 

Hiface 2 works fine with USB 3.0 (MSI p67a-c43).

There are new drivers - 2.19
.

 

Need optimized drivers for our device> register in the .INF file

 

link - http://rapid.ufanet.ru/65263123

 

 

-----------------------------------------------------
V2.19.0 (February 06, 2014)
-----------------------------------------------------

* New: New control panel application, improved UI, fully customizable

* New: New control panel also included in ST driver

* Fix: SPDIF renderer devices now supports hardware volume controls

* Fix: KS GetBuffer called at very high rate (@ sample rate)
  if there is a "no buffer" condition

* Fix: Firmware version in DFU GUI utility not shown as BCD

* Chg: Custom icon will be patched in DFU utility and control panel .exe.
  External .ico file causes problems because of Windows shell icon caching.

* Chg: If a device does not implement the Validity control in
  its clock source then assume that the clock is always valid.

* Chg: Avoid debug trace message in case bus driver completes
  isoch buffer untouched


-----------------------------------------------------
V2.18.0 (January 14, 2014)
-----------------------------------------------------

* New: Windows 8.1 supported.

* New: Manifests include Windows 8.1 OS.
       Signatures and .cat files include Windows 8.1 OS tag.

* New: Driver install packages are self-extracting .exe now
      (created with 7-zip) instead .zip files. This is to avoid
      warning messages about untrusted files in Windows 8.1.
      For more info, see also user manual section 6.2.


-----------------------------------------------------
V2.17.0 (December 20, 2013)
-----------------------------------------------------

Internal preview release, not for redistribution!

* Chg: audio class 1.0 feedback endpoint at high speed now supported

* Chg: generic child device builder now handles interfaces with
       bInterfaceClass=0xFF, but skips interfaces with no endpoints

* Fix: Stream format switching not working for DSD formats

* New: Statistics enhanced: sound device volume/mute + feature units


-----------------------------------------------------
V2.16.0 (November 26, 2013)
-----------------------------------------------------

* Fix: 32 bit PCM through WASAPI was not working

* New: DSD sample rate 22.6 MHz (DSD512) is supported if device supports 705600 Hz

I downloaded from your link and got the Thesycon evaluation set which states that it inserts a beep after one hour? Is there an already modified version of this 2.19 for Hiface 2 that has no beep? Further instructions would be helpful. I went to the WaveIO/Luckit site to see if they had it up and I see that they have locked their site so that it now requires a username and password to view their site. 


Edited by Chodi - 2/13/14 at 5:10pm
post #459 of 554
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Chodi

 

I unfortunately am not strong in programming. Therefore laid out - and who can cope with the task.

post #460 of 554

WindofSirius it's a simple matter to correct the files for hiface 2 but to remove the beep is not possible for me. The driver has to come from an authorized vendor who is paying for the license. Then it is easy to modify it for Hiface 2. It seems that M2 Tech is not so quick to jump on these upgrades even though they are a licensed user. I will shoot them a note but I fear that M2 Tech does not do any of their own programming (which is why it takes them so long for any software changes). This 2.19 version has some interesting changes so I would like to get this done. I will post back if M2 Tech answers my note.

post #461 of 554

Hey everyone, I have a quick request for anyone who owns a Hiface and the original kinect for xbox 360.  I am away at college and while I was home over the weekend I noticed the kinect is powered via a unique cable.  It provides AC power to the device through USB and then sends the data to the Xbox 360 over USB, effectively it's a powered USB extension cable.  I was wondering if anyone who has this cable could plug the HiFace into it plug in the AC power and then attach the male USB to the computer to verify it will receive data.

 

Thanks for all the great tips and thanks in advance for the help!

 

John

post #462 of 554

I don't have a Kinect, but I can't imagine how this would work.  The HiFace/Two is USB to S/PDIF directional audio.

post #463 of 554
Yesterday I bought the hiface two bnc + rca adapter (gift) as suggested from a local seller, in his opinion the bnc version work a little bit better. so they trade only that version. What do you think?
post #464 of 554
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneiric Moor View Post

Yesterday I bought the hiface two bnc + rca adapter (gift) as suggested from a local seller, in his opinion the bnc version work a little bit better. so they trade only that version. What do you think?

The device is identical only the connector is different. Pro audio uses the bnc connector. Some will say that bnc is a better connection even for home use than rca. Since you bought the bnc version with an rca adapter, you have the same device in the end as the rca only version (which I own). Either way enjoy. It is a great device and does exactly what it is advertised to do without all the pain I have seen from owners of other devices. You can buy better for much more money, but the Hiface mkII really does its' job and sounds great. This is the same Xmos chip that you would find included in many high end dacs. If you are using Windows just grab the latest drivers from the M2Tech website.

post #465 of 554

Thanks for reply, I agree with you. Don't matter which version is plugged, if the dac has an rca input the performance can't be improved from a bnc adapter. Probably the seller has read this from the manual: Should a hybrid cable be available (that is, a cable with an RCA plug on one end and a BNC plug on the other), it is possible to use a hiFace Two BNC with a DAC provided with an RCA input, or vice versa. A slight performance increase with respect to an all-RCA link can be obtained. Make no sense imho.

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