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post #6751 of 6905
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Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
 

Joining the Schiit family here. Got an Asgard 2 and a BiFrost DAC with the uber analog upgrade. This combo is connected to my computer and drives my HiFiMan HE-400 headphones with aplomb. Very nice gear. Simplistic design (this is a HUGE plus) and very well built. They run a little hot, but heck, it's a Class A amp. If you want an air conditioner, go elsewhere.

Should last you a very long time. Enjoy the music now!

post #6752 of 6905
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 
something about "wax caps"; silly post won't quote

 

wax caps didn't save the poor satellite:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisker_(metallurgy)#Galaxy_IV

post #6753 of 6905

Wow. Didn't expect a reply from the main schiit man himself. Thanks for the reassuring answer. :)

post #6754 of 6905
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Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
 

Joining the Schiit family here. Got an Asgard 2 and a BiFrost DAC with the uber analog upgrade. This combo is connected to my computer and drives my HiFiMan HE-400 headphones with aplomb. Very nice gear. Simplistic design (this is a HUGE plus) and very well built. They run a little hot, but heck, it's a Class A amp. If you want an air conditioner, go elsewhere.

 

Exactly! I started my quest for better sounding audio components in the late 80's and back then if a company used terms like "Class A" you could be certain that said component ran very warm to hot. Since then I've learned to never trust a so-called "Class A" amp that runs cool to the touch. Bring on the heat from that true "Class A" design Schiit amp...just turn down the AC. 

 

Of course, an amp doesn't have to be "Cass A" to sound great but it doesn't hurt. 

post #6755 of 6905
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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post
 

Another quick "it ain't no thang" heat story:

 

When we were in development on Lyr 2, we noticed that the heater transformers ran a good bit hotter than Lyr 1 (about 55 degrees C.) Concerned with their lifespan, we sent one to the transformer manufacturer, who came back to us and said, basically, "This is nothing. What are you worrying about?"

 

"Well, what are they rated for?" I asked. Figuring it was about 85 degrees C.

 

"115 degrees C," the transformer engineer replied. 

 

"For how long?"

 

"Indefinitely. But we have some customers who need more, so we can do them up to 150 degrees C indefinitely with different insulation."

 

Yeah. 150 degrees C. That's 302 degrees F. For a transformer. Wow.

 

Another fun fact: most speaker power amps have a fail-safe at 85-95 degrees C on the heatsinks...and many pro amplifiers run just below that temperature all the time. That's easily 95-105 degrees C at the devices--or about 50-60 degrees hotter than Asgard 2 and Lyr 2.

So you're telling me if I want to heat my home with amps this winter, I'll need some hotter Schiit.

post #6756 of 6905
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

So you're telling me if I want to heat my home with amps this winter, I'll need some hotter Schiit.

Maybe just a steaming pile of it?

Cheers
post #6757 of 6905
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Originally Posted by ab initio View Post


Maybe just a steaming pile of it?

Cheers

Very cheeky.

post #6758 of 6905
I think I might have to replace my magni with something a bit hotter. The magni doesn't quite have the juice to keep my coffee warm.
post #6759 of 6905

The Magni (and at times, Vali) is a revelation with my HE-500 :) But, it's not too hot to make it unbearable (unlike the Asgard) LOL

post #6760 of 6905
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Originally Posted by punchkid View Post

I think I might have to replace my magni with something a bit hotter. The magni doesn't quite have the juice to keep my coffee warm.

Perhaps a tube amp is called for. They do have heaters.

Now there's an idea for a new product, a tube powered coffee brewer/heater.


Edited by StanD - 8/28/14 at 9:37am
post #6761 of 6905
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Originally Posted by punchkid View Post

I think I might have to replace my magni with something a bit hotter. The magni doesn't quite have the juice to keep my coffee warm.

Speaking of heat issues, since getting my Gungnir a couple of years ago, I've been amused that it runs hotter than my Emotiva mono bloc amps biggrin.gif
post #6762 of 6905

Hey Guys,

 

I have a Lyr 2 that I've tube rolled with some old Holland Bugle Boys and Gold Aero's that I had laying around, and the tubes that came with the amp. I can't say that I can hear any difference between them all. I'm using a Modi for the DAC, and AKG K702 headphones. I just ordered a Bifrost Uber USB that hasn't arrived yet. For a source I use a Macbook Pro using Fidelia or iTunes, and all my music files are .wav. I've owned some EL34 based amps in the past on my main system where every tube I changed always made a pretty noticeable difference so I was sort of expecting a similar level of change when I swap tubes on the Lyr 2. Has anyone else experienced this with a Lyr 2? Are there any current production tubes that do make a noticeable improvement?  I don't want to get started on spendy NOS tubes, just wondering about current production stuff.

 

Thanks in advance.

post #6763 of 6905
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Originally Posted by crazychile View Post
 

Hey Guys,

 

I have a Lyr 2 that I've tube rolled with some old Holland Bugle Boys and Gold Aero's that I had laying around, and the tubes that came with the amp. I can't say that I can hear any difference between them all. I'm using a Modi for the DAC, and AKG K702 headphones. I just ordered a Bifrost Uber USB that hasn't arrived yet. For a source I use a Macbook Pro using Fidelia or iTunes, and all my music files are .wav. I've owned some EL34 based amps in the past on my main system where every tube I changed always made a pretty noticeable difference so I was sort of expecting a similar level of change when I swap tubes on the Lyr 2. Has anyone else experienced this with a Lyr 2? Are there any current production tubes that do make a noticeable improvement?  I don't want to get started on spendy NOS tubes, just wondering about current production stuff.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

When I got to listen to a friend's Lyr some tubes did make a difference; dunno if they were current vs NOS though. You may want to take a look at the Lyr tube rolling thread.

 

From my understanding, in general a hybrid amp like the Lyr will be less affected by tube changes compared to a fully tube amp like the Valhalla.

post #6764 of 6905

Just bought a Lyr! :)  

 

 

Remember to always put the good Schiit on top of the stack.


Edited by trick - 8/30/14 at 1:08pm
post #6765 of 6905
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Originally Posted by crazychile View Post

Hey Guys,

I have a Lyr 2 that I've tube rolled with some old Holland Bugle Boys and Gold Aero's that I had laying around, and the tubes that came with the amp. I can't say that I can hear any difference between them all. I'm using a Modi for the DAC, and AKG K702 headphones. I just ordered a Bifrost Uber USB that hasn't arrived yet. For a source I use a Macbook Pro using Fidelia or iTunes, and all my music files are .wav. I've owned some EL34 based amps in the past on my main system where every tube I changed always made a pretty noticeable difference so I was sort of expecting a similar level of change when I swap tubes on the Lyr 2. Has anyone else experienced this with a Lyr 2? Are there any current production tubes that do make a noticeable improvement?  I don't want to get started on spendy NOS tubes, just wondering about current production stuff.

Thanks in advance.
I have used the genalex Gold lions, in my lyr2 , to run my alpha dogs, and they sound great. The bass on the dogs is a bit deeper, the mids have lost the veil of the stock tubes.Furthermore the sound stage is a bit more expansive, more holographic than the stocks.
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