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post #6496 of 6928

Anyone know if the Wyrd will work with a 230V wall adaptor? If it does, I was thinking of buying one and using the Magni wall adaptor for it

post #6497 of 6928
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Originally Posted by TsukiNick View Post
 


Guess that's reasonable but I mean the Sys uses same chassis, but one can argue this is a passive unit, but maybe idk like $75, Idk $99 just seems like a really bad price point, but if people are willing to pay for it at that price then they got business.  I am glad that they don't claim it enhances sound.  It's good that Schiit isn't making dumb claims like a lot of companies are.

 

With regards to SYS: SYS contains only a PCB with the RCA connectors, a dual-gang volume potentiometer, and a DPDT pushbutton switch. Based on that information alone, one could argue that $49 is terribly overpriced. I bought the SYS because I found value in: 1 the aesthetics of matching my modi and magni, 2 the steel chassis construction, 3 the quality of the component choice and assembly---the volume knob gives a good range with a sensible taper and good balance, and the switch seamlessly switches between inputs without making audible electronic clicks or pops. If there was a competing product at the same price or lower, I couldn't find it. (I'd be in the market for a second, especially if there are more switchable inputs/outputs at the same or lower price)

 

I won't be buying a WYRD because I don't have power delivery and my USB 2.0 ports work correctly with Modi without glitches or artifacts (not true with my USB 3.0 ports). $99 is not something I will spend on a product that addresses issues I don't have. However, if I couldn't use my USB 2.0 ports with modi and only had the glitchy USB 3.0 ports that do artifact OR if I heard anything more than the completely black background because of computer power supply noise issues (think laptop, where the computer's USB or power delivery issues cannot be easily fixed), I would be inclined to pay $99 for a product specifically designed to address those issues for my usb-powered DAC. This is especially true when the alternate solution would be to try products not specifically designed with those issues in mind (power supply delivery, non glitchy usb asynch streaming) for 25% or more of the price (and that typically cannot be returned to the store after breaking the seal unless they actually don't work with the data devices they're intended for). I'd rather save my time and potentially one or two nonreturnable purchases at a significant fraction of the price and pay the extra 75 or less to get a product specifically for the task (and with superior aesthetics and build quality, matching the associated devices).

 

I realize that 99 is a lot for a single port USB hub. (technically it's not a hub, it's a repeater. no?) 

Is $99 a lot for the tool designed specifically to address your audio system's shortcomings? Especially with the added splash of luxury (if you're into that sort of thing)?

 

When your system has no audible artifacts from your USB-attached/powered DAC, adding a WYRD is a $99 charity donation to Schiit audio. 

 

So, there you have it. I just wrote a half-page post defending the purchase of a product that seems to be the source of some audio system mysticism and which I do not own, do not need, and do not want. I must be a biased Schiit fanboy. :confused:

 

Cheers

post #6498 of 6928
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Originally Posted by Wildcatsare1 View Post


How are you liking that Wyrd, beautiful Schiit Stack💩!!!

 I'm pleased with the WYRD, although I doubt most people will need it/benefit from it. I personally got it because I run a pretty high end custom computer with dual r9 290x in crossfire (overclocked to 1.1ghtz each) and I found during games they were polluting the USB bus and during quiet passages I could hear some electrical noise. Now that I added the WYRD that is all gone.

 

When I first added it, I thought it improved the sound, but I think that was just in my head.

post #6499 of 6928
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Originally Posted by OICWUTUDIDTHAR View Post
 

 I'm pleased with the WYRD, although I doubt most people will need it/benefit from it. I personally got it because I run a pretty high end custom computer with dual r9 290x in crossfire (overclocked to 1.1ghtz each) and I found during games they were polluting the USB bus and during quiet passages I could hear some electrical noise. Now that I added the WYRD that is all gone.

 

When I first added it, I thought it improved the sound, but I think that was just in my head.

That's a perfect application for the Wyrd. I'll agree that the SQ improvements, other than less noise, are in one's imagination. It's important to be aware of what's there, or not.

You must have a serious power supply in your PC to run the Video hardware. Which CPU are you using? Is it overclocked and if so to what freq?

post #6500 of 6928
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

That's a perfect application for the Wyrd. I'll agree that the SQ improvements, other than less noise, are in one's imagination. It's important to be aware of what's there, or not.

You must have a serious power supply in your PC to run the Video hardware. Which CPU are you using? Is it overclocked and if so to what freq?

 

4790k @ 4,8 ghtz 

 

power supply is coolermaster v1000

post #6501 of 6928
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Originally Posted by OICWUTUDIDTHAR View Post

4790k @ 4,8 ghtz 

power supply is coolermaster v1000
Very nice. Glad to see the Wyrd (the end all be all of all USB hubs) solved your issue.
post #6502 of 6928
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Originally Posted by OICWUTUDIDTHAR View Post
 

 

4790k @ 4,8 ghtz 

 

power supply is coolermaster v1000

Not exactly the typical pedestrian PC. ;)

I don''t know if you mentioned it and I missed it, but which DAC are you using?

post #6503 of 6928

the gungnir from schiit of course :)

post #6504 of 6928
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Originally Posted by OICWUTUDIDTHAR View Post
 

the gungnir from schiit of course :)

If you mentioned another brand in this thread you might catch some Schiit. :D

post #6505 of 6928

There's NO WAY that the SYS or Wyrd should be considered "overpriced" at by anyone in THIS hobby. Schiit Audio has made their name in this business by offering great products for incredibly low prices when compared to most of the competition. Pick up a copy of Stereophile or The Absolute Sound and check out the prices on most audio gear and you'll see that both of these items should be considered bargains if you require either one of them.  

post #6506 of 6928
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Originally Posted by KLJTech View Post
 

There's NO WAY that the SYS or Wyrd should be considered "overpriced" at by anyone in THIS hobby. Schiit Audio has made their name in this business by offering great products for incredibly low prices when compared to most of the competition. Pick up a copy of Stereophile or The Absolute Sound and check out the prices on most audio gear and you'll see that both of these items should be considered bargains if you require either one of them.  


You may be right, but buying a $100 power supply for a $100 DAC seems kind of wyrd to me. 

post #6507 of 6928
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Originally Posted by CharlesC View Post
 


You may be right, but buying a $100 power supply for a $100 DAC seems kind of wyrd to me. 

I have to second his opinion. If you are having USB issues with the Modi and have a Mac, I'd do optical out through the headphone port and use the Modi optical.

post #6508 of 6928
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Originally Posted by jeremy205100 View Post

....... I'd do optical out through the headphone port and use the Modi optical.

That's a good idea.  It would mean not using an iPhone but that may be worth it.

post #6509 of 6928
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Originally Posted by CharlesC View Post
 

That's a good idea.  It would mean not using an iPhone but that may be worth it.

Honestly, and no offense to anyone that does, I just can't imagine why someone would want to use desktop DACs and headphone amplifiers with an iPhone. When on the go, and benefit you're getting in sound will likely be destroyed by noise and your lack of focus. That's why a decent pair of IEMs is all that's needed for on the go, in my opinion. I'd rather invest in a home setup that will allow me to better appreciate the benefits.

post #6510 of 6928
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Originally Posted by jeremy205100 View Post
 

Honestly, and no offense to anyone that does, I just can't imagine why someone would want to use desktop DACs and headphone amplifiers with an iPhone. When on the go, and benefit you're getting in sound will likely be destroyed by noise and your lack of focus. That's why a decent pair of IEMs is all that's needed for on the go, in my opinion. I'd rather invest in a home setup that will allow me to better appreciate the benefits.


I like to have my listening equipment set up on a table next to a comfortable chair.  Plugging in the iPhone and listening to ALAC files without the hassle of setting up the laptop (likely on the floor) is the benefit for me.  It's not for on the go, it's for convenience.

 

FWIW, I always think it's odd when I see anyone listening to music at a desk.


Edited by CharlesC - 8/12/14 at 3:38pm
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