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post #5101 of 6150
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Originally Posted by SpArkLeS View Post
 

So should I do it or not? :p

 

 

 

One or the other, but not both.

 


Edited by UmustBKidn - 4/19/14 at 2:30am
post #5102 of 6150
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Originally Posted by jexby View Post
 

Note:  in another thread, minutes ago, Jason of Schiit hinted at a cheaper-than-BiFrost DAC with optical input.

don't know if that means it's a "Modi+optical"  or a new mini-Bifrost Uber with USB and optical" ???

 

He specifically said it was not a "Modi 2".

 

He said it was another DAC with optical capability. Presumably priced somewhat cheaper than a Bifrost. That is an excellent choice for their current lineup, since it's such a jump from a Modi to a Bifrost (Uber or not). Another DAC in the middle of that price range would be awesome.

post #5103 of 6150
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Originally Posted by Tuco1965 View Post

I would put your money into the amp first, then see how it sounds from there. The Modi is a fine little dac.

 

Respectfully disagree.

 

I used to think like this until I bought my first DAC. At that point I knew I needed to get a DAC for any audio setup where I use headphones. I'm spoiled now. If I have to listen to a setup with only a headphone, that's preferable as opposed to listening to an amp driven by a headphone jack (or similar). Those just sound ugly to me now. There's just no excuse to not own at least a Modi. It's such a big step up from no DAC, and it's just too easy to afford. There's no excuse to skip it.

post #5104 of 6150
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Originally Posted by UmustBKidn View Post
 

 

Respectfully disagree.

 

I used to think like this until I bought my first DAC. At that point I knew I needed to get a DAC for any audio setup where I use headphones. I'm spoiled now. If I have to listen to a setup with only a headphone, that's preferable as opposed to listening to an amp driven by a headphone jack (or similar). Those just sound ugly to me now. There's just no excuse to not own at least a Modi. It's such a big step up from no DAC, and it's just too easy to afford. There's no excuse to skip it.

I agree......U expressed it exactly as I do.

post #5105 of 6150
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Originally Posted by UmustBKidn View Post
 

 

Respectfully disagree.

 

I used to think like this until I bought my first DAC. At that point I knew I needed to get a DAC for any audio setup where I use headphones. I'm spoiled now. If I have to listen to a setup with only a headphone, that's preferable as opposed to listening to an amp driven by a headphone jack (or similar). Those just sound ugly to me now. There's just no excuse to not own at least a Modi. It's such a big step up from no DAC, and it's just too easy to afford. There's no excuse to skip it.

 

And I'll have to respectfully disagree as well.

 

For your setup I'm sure that was the case, but someone else's headphone jack might be significantly higher quality than what you were using (for example, my laptop's headphone out actually sounds fine with a couple of my cans).

post #5106 of 6150
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Originally Posted by UmustBKidn View Post

Respectfully disagree.

I used to think like this until I bought my first DAC. At that point I knew I needed to get a DAC for any audio setup where I use headphones. I'm spoiled now. If I have to listen to a setup with only a headphone, that's preferable as opposed to listening to an amp driven by a headphone jack (or similar). Those just sound ugly to me now. There's just no excuse to not own at least a Modi. It's such a big step up from no DAC, and it's just too easy to afford. There's no excuse to skip it.

Well that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I would rather put funds into a single piece of the signal chain and build. That's how I've always built my systems. One piece at a time, other than the Magni and Modi which were just for fun. beerchug.gif
post #5107 of 6150
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Originally Posted by SpArkLeS View Post
 

So should I do it or not? :p

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by SpArkLeS View Post
 

So should I do it or not? :p

 

 

DO IT BRO

post #5108 of 6150
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Originally Posted by UmustBKidn View Post
 

 

He specifically said it was not a "Modi 2".

 

He said it was another DAC with optical capability. Presumably priced somewhat cheaper than a Bifrost. That is an excellent choice for their current lineup, since it's such a jump from a Modi to a Bifrost (Uber or not). Another DAC in the middle of that price range would be awesome.

I agree, But only if its a tube amp or hybrid. I don't mind solid sate amps without a DAC 

post #5109 of 6150
The rule has always been to use the highest % on speakers (headphones) followed by amp and source. One can always upgrade the extra equipt.
post #5110 of 6150

Hi, this is a moment that I ask myself this question. Voilà, the Magni and Vali have common points (of sound), how would you describe them? I think they have in common that they sound a bit "metallic" and without much body. They must have common components that do this ? (Clarification: I greatly magnified the line, in fact I love the Vali and Schiit stuff in general).

post #5111 of 6150
Hi All!

Has anyone tried the Valhalla (newer version that allows tube rolling) and the Bifost Uber with the Sennheiser HD600 phones? What are your thoughts?

Please see my post in the recommendations thread for more background in the set-up and sound I am looking to create.

Thanks and happy listening!!!
post #5112 of 6150

What do you mean by the newer version?

post #5113 of 6150
Yeah, the Valhalla amp still comes with a user manual that says that rolling tubes will not work, as the amplifier was specifically designed for the tubes they put in it (mine arrived two days ago).

If you want a Schiit amp that allows for tube rolling, you probably want to look at the Lyr. While it runs $100, it does offer a lot more, including higher power output, lower output impedance (for better compatibility with lower input impedance 'phones), and tube rolling.

The "Choosing a Headphone Amp" page does suggest that you can roll the tubes in Valhalla, but I would ask Schiit before I started any of that...you know what? I think I will go ahead and ask them about it. I'll let you know what I find out.
post #5114 of 6150

The Valhalla's are now rollable. This was announced some time ago. You can check the specs out on Schiit's site.

post #5115 of 6150
Anyone using the Valhalla and bifost with the Sennheiser HD 600? Wondering how good a choice this amp and DAC are for these headphones.

Tube rolling can have a real influence on the sound of an amp. Good to hear you can roll with the Valhalla.
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