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post #4201 of 5125
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post
 

 

The Lyr was my amp before the Mjolnir. It was still in the stable when I owned the Gungnir so I have lived with the system you are now putting together. I'd recommend rolling some Amperex Bugle Boys (60's Herleen factory O-getters) to dial in some surprising synergy with the HD800. Enjoy.

By chance, I have rolled exactly those tubes into the Lyr, giving the Telefunken E88CCs a rest. I'll leave them there until the Gungnir comes - thanks for the tip!

post #4202 of 5125
I have bugle boys orange globes and others have just started using the telefunkens they are now my favorites
post #4203 of 5125
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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post

I have bugle boys orange globes and others have just started using the telefunkens they are now my favorites


tele's my fav, 69 og, close second

the tele were 62's

post #4204 of 5125
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Originally Posted by Amictus View Post
 

To Gungnir or not to Gungnir? Every day my Lyr looks at me and gestures at the DAC beside it, looking reproachful. "I came all the way over an ocean to bring you the gift of music, and look what you hooked me up with!" That what it says. I am in a quandary. Light tubes for me. :confused_face(1):

Sounds like a serious case of Upgraditis to me.

post #4205 of 5125
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Originally Posted by CrunchyChick View Post
 

Sounds like a serious case of Upgraditis to me.

Chronic, not terminal. :rolleyes:

post #4206 of 5125

The Bifrost just arrived today, so now I'm official... hoping to see the Asgard 2 arrive sometime over the next several days.

 

No more clicks and pops on high res recordings.  I tried the "French Organ Music" set from BIS, done at 24/192.  Played flawlessly.

My old DAC just couldn't do it...   looking forward to the Asgard 2 - just got my "shipped" status email today.

post #4207 of 5125
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post


The Gungnir isn't a great match for the HD800 IME. Skim through this thread for impressions from myself and others.

Not when paired with Mjolnir, but with Lyr, I think he'll be okay.

post #4208 of 5125
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post
 

Not when paired with Mjolnir, but with Lyr, I think he'll be okay.


I'll let you know. Fedex predict delivery when I am away. Sigh. :eek:

post #4209 of 5125

Hey guys... I have the Magni / Modi Stack combo. I have the Ultrasone Pro-Logic 550. I was happy with the sound card "Creative Sound Blaster ZX" but I wanted to try out the Magni / Modi Stack Combo. And also I wanted to remove the sound card from inside the PC because it was covering custom back plate of the second 780 GTX. 

 

I am not very happy with the sound during gaming. The sound is no where near the sound card. I don't want to put the sound card back so I am thinking of buying a better headphone "though it was working fine with the sound card" 

 

Not sure if that is going to make any difference. What I have in mind is HE-400, DT-990 (32, 250, or 600Ohms), Philips Fidelio X1.

 

 

what do you think guys ?!

post #4210 of 5125

I have neither (yet), but isn't ZX dedicated card for gaming, where Magni/Modi is dedicated HiFi system for music and movies?

post #4211 of 5125
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Originally Posted by mostafa View Post
 

Hey guys... I have the Magni / Modi Stack combo. I have the Ultrasone Pro-Logic 550. I was happy with the sound card "Creative Sound Blaster ZX" but I wanted to try out the Magni / Modi Stack Combo. And also I wanted to remove the sound card from inside the PC because it was covering custom back plate of the second 780 GTX. 

 

I am not very happy with the sound during gaming. The sound is no where near the sound card. I don't want to put the sound card back so I am thinking of buying a better headphone "though it was working fine with the sound card" 

 

Not sure if that is going to make any difference. What I have in mind is HE-400, DT-990 (32, 250, or 600Ohms), Philips Fidelio X1.

 

 

what do you think guys ?!

 

What do you mean by "no where near the sound card"? Do you mean that you can't hear the foot steps of enemies in FPS games etc? If so then I'm not surprised. Amps and DACs aren't meant for gaming after all. They are meant for music. 

 

If you enjoy your Ultrasone with your Schiit stack for music I would recommend that you get a separate pair of gaming headphones dedicated for gaming instead. Something like the Corsair stuff with their virtual 7.1. 

post #4212 of 5125

Thanks for the help guys. I don't want to insert the sound card back inside the PC. It really ruins the looks inside. So I am left with either on board audio , or AMP/ DAC.

 

I think changing the headphones won't make any difference... in Gaming... but definitely in Audio / Video.

post #4213 of 5125
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Originally Posted by mostafa View Post
 

Hey guys... I have the Magni / Modi Stack combo. I have the Ultrasone Pro-Logic 550. I was happy with the sound card "Creative Sound Blaster ZX" but I wanted to try out the Magni / Modi Stack Combo. And also I wanted to remove the sound card from inside the PC because it was covering custom back plate of the second 780 GTX. 

 

I am not very happy with the sound during gaming. The sound is no where near the sound card. I don't want to put the sound card back so I am thinking of buying a better headphone "though it was working fine with the sound card" 

 

Not sure if that is going to make any difference. What I have in mind is HE-400, DT-990 (32, 250, or 600Ohms), Philips Fidelio X1.

 

 

what do you think guys ?!

 

I used a pair of Razer Carcharias for years to play WoW. They were great for gaming. I would not use them to listen to audio.

 

I have not personally used the Ultrasone you mention. But I have a Magni/Modi stack, and I am listening to it right now on a set of Beyerdynamic DT770's. They sound great, and they sound far and away better than anything I ever heard out of my gaming headphones. But I'm also not expecting "surround sound" effects from this setup.

 

I have not used a dedicated sound card for years. I don't see the point in it. Twenty years ago, there was a good reason to own a Sound Blaster Pro. Today, I just don't see the point. Even cheap motherboards come with audio that is good enough to play games. The average $300 dollar desktop uses a motherboard that cost $50 bucks retail (if that). I can see wanting to put a better video card in there, because even a $40 dollar NVidia 210 will make an improvement over a desktop running Intel graphics. But dropping $50 or more on a sound card? No. Heck no lol.

 

Sure, a sound card with surround sounds good, but only in games. That "surround" feature is deceptive - it is altering the sound (mainly to make it seem like you're in the middle of the music, or whatever is being played). That's not "real" sound - it is a sound effect. It's just fine when you're trying to play a game, when it's important to be able to hear someone sneaking up behind you, before they attack or something. That same effect will sound bad when you just try to play regular audio through it.

 

So personally, I think this is comparing apples and oranges. Game sound and music are two different beasts.

post #4214 of 5125

What's the best way to configure Windows 8.1 sound settings for use with Bifrost?  I'm using the SPDIF connector.  Most of my music is 16/44.1 ALAC, but I have a growing number of recordings at 24/96 and  24/192.   I've got Foobar and occasionally use Spotify Premium and iTunes.

 

  Thanks

post #4215 of 5125
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Originally Posted by UmustBKidn View Post
 

 

I used a pair of Razer Carcharias for years to play WoW. They were great for gaming. I would not use them to listen to audio.

 

I have not personally used the Ultrasone you mention. But I have a Magni/Modi stack, and I am listening to it right now on a set of Beyerdynamic DT770's. They sound great, and they sound far and away better than anything I ever heard out of my gaming headphones. But I'm also not expecting "surround sound" effects from this setup.

 

I have not used a dedicated sound card for years. I don't see the point in it. Twenty years ago, there was a good reason to own a Sound Blaster Pro. Today, I just don't see the point. Even cheap motherboards come with audio that is good enough to play games. The average $300 dollar desktop uses a motherboard that cost $50 bucks retail (if that). I can see wanting to put a better video card in there, because even a $40 dollar NVidia 210 will make an improvement over a desktop running Intel graphics. But dropping $50 or more on a sound card? No. Heck no lol.

 

Sure, a sound card with surround sounds good, but only in games. That "surround" feature is deceptive - it is altering the sound (mainly to make it seem like you're in the middle of the music, or whatever is being played). That's not "real" sound - it is a sound effect. It's just fine when you're trying to play a game, when it's important to be able to hear someone sneaking up behind you, before they attack or something. That same effect will sound bad when you just try to play regular audio through it.

 

So personally, I think this is comparing apples and oranges. Game sound and music are two different beasts.

 

Well said UmustBKidn ! I think I will stick to the Ultrasone for now. Maybe I'll grab a new one next pay check :D

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