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post #4066 of 7166
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Originally Posted by AnalogSavior View Post
 

I'm curious, for those who have with Bifrost and Gungnir, do you use S/PDIF in or USB in?  Is one preferred over the other?  If you are coming out of a laptop with optical out, like my MBP, which would be preferred? 

 

This is purely for my curiosity, as I only have Modi, and don't intend on upgrading soon.  So please, enlighten me.

 

:beyersmile:

I'm currently using USB on my Bifrost, but I believe I have read someone (possibly on the Schiit site itself) that it was an inferior input. I could be wrong, but that's what my memory is bringing up right now. I don't have a real good understanding why that is. This is coming out of a Mac mini where I could use USB or optical.

post #4067 of 7166
Thread Starter 

If you get computer noise or a ground loop coming through your system, then use optical as it eliminates this.  If you have occasional USB dropouts, then use optical.

 

Otherwise, you'll need the ears of a German Shepard to tell the inputs apart in the real world.  Sure, machines can tell them apart in their measurements, but most human ears cannot in blind tests.

 

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Originally Posted by AnalogSavior View Post
 

I'm curious, for those who have with Bifrost and Gungnir, do you use S/PDIF in or USB in?  Is one preferred over the other?  If you are coming out of a laptop with optical out, like my MBP, which would be preferred? 

 

This is purely for my curiosity, as I only have Modi, and don't intend on upgrading soon.  So please, enlighten me.

 

:beyersmile:

post #4068 of 7166

Kind of a stupid question, but whatever. Got in my Bifrost yesterday and all is well. For those of you who bought it brand new, did the selection button come with any plastic on it? Mine appears to either have material over it or is looks very different from the rest of the Bifrost brushed aluminum finish, but I'm too scared to take an exacto to it because I know it can scratch easily.

post #4069 of 7166

I have tested it with an optical cable and compared it to USB. I can hear that USB sounds slightly better plus USB will take advantage of  the full performance of the unit. Were as optical is limited to 24 bits and it won't play 24 176400 for some reason. This is strange because it does play 24 192000 files without issue. I also had problems with USB in ASIO mode. It will only play 16 bits max so I use Kernel Streaming mode in J River Media Center and all sample rates and bit rates up to 32 bits plays fine. So Kernel Mode with USB is the best for me plus it sounds the best and even better than WASAPI. I believe the ASIO problem is driver related. I did talk to Jason who said they are making progress. Hopefully it will work sometime in the future with ASIO to its full potential but I really like Kernel Mode Streaming so for now it is fine. 

post #4070 of 7166
Thread Starter 

Expectation bias.

post #4071 of 7166
Interesting. I know I *probably* wouldn't be able to tell the difference on a blind A/B, but I guess optical takes away some potential interference.

@huberd. I didn't realize there were issues playing 176kHz files. As for being limited to 24 bit, I don't see that as a real issue. I don't think I know of any music higher than 24 bit.
post #4072 of 7166

The thing is I am using Windows 8.1 which now goes up to 32 bit sound. I haven't seen any music that is recorded with 32 bits either because I don't think it exists. The unit is capable and does work in 32 bit mode with Windows 8. 

post #4073 of 7166
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The thing is I am using Windows 8.1 which now goes up to 32 bit sound. I haven't seen any music that is recorded with 32 bits either because I don't think it exists. The unit is capable and does work in 32 bit mode with Windows 8. 


Don't worry too much, 24bits already exceed the human hearing so 32 bits will only exceed it even more.

post #4074 of 7166
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Originally Posted by AnalogSavior View Post
 

I'm curious, for those who have with Bifrost and Gungnir, do you use S/PDIF in or USB in?  Is one preferred over the other?  If you are coming out of a laptop with optical out, like my MBP, which would be preferred? 

 

This is purely for my curiosity, as I only have Modi, and don't intend on upgrading soon.  So please, enlighten me.

 

:beyersmile:

I go from the USB of my laptop (a Macbook Air) into the SPDIF using a BNC Halide. I tried USB to USB but for some reason, I found the sound to be, gosh, a little thinner. My ears a problem ? Don't know.

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post #4076 of 7166
Just got my first stack of Schiit! All I need now is an RCA cable lol so a trip to the local audio shop after work, then the listening can begin!

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post #4078 of 7166
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Originally Posted by MAGICAL ESKIMO View Post

Just got my first stack of Schiit! All I need now is an RCA cable lol so a trip to the local audio shop after work, then the listening can begin!


You are going to be in for a treat and it only gets better as they burn-in, that won't take long with solid state though.

post #4079 of 7166
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Originally Posted by BLACKENEDPLAGUE View Post
 

 

post #4080 of 7166

Which amp/dac is the better option?

 

Schiit Magni+Modi stack vs Fiio E07K+E09K?

 

I am looking for an amp/dac to pair with my AKG Q701's and both combos are around the same price. Thanks!

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