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post #3271 of 6156
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Originally Posted by IorekByrnison View Post
 

I strongly doubt the large, large majority of people can tell the difference between a V0 and a 320 without Bifrost-tier gear or better

 

Nobody should be able to tell the difference. It's the same thing just using different technologies. The variable bit rate is to save space but can go as high as 320 when it needs to give that much information. Unless you meant between either of those two and FLAC? I know I can't tell the difference between 320 and flac anyway. I don't think that most people can even with exceptional gear.

post #3272 of 6156

the bifrost has landed !

 

it just got here, its taken the place of the peachtree dacIT for the time being, let the games begin !

post #3273 of 6156
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Originally Posted by Llloyd View Post
 

 

Nobody should be able to tell the difference. It's the same thing just using different technologies. The variable bit rate is to save space but can go as high as 320 when it needs to give that much information. Unless you meant between either of those two and FLAC? I know I can't tell the difference between 320 and flac anyway. I don't think that most people can even with exceptional gear.

 

I can definitely tell V0/320 from FLAC on my Bifrost/Valhalla/T70 rig... on some music, but not all. Complex, layered death metal with synth bits and dual vocalists? Not so much. Well mastered jazz in an otherwise dead quiet room? Absolutely.

 

As I understood it, V0 shaved a bit off the very top, the frequencies that are inaudible to anyone but children pretty much, in addition to VBRing at max fidelity - which should make it indistinguishable from 320 for any of us, but if it doesn't even do that and just cuts out true silence, then yeah it'd be literally impossible to tell. 

post #3274 of 6156
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

the bifrost has landed !

 

it just got here, its taken the place of the peachtree dacIT for the time being, let the games begin !

Hey Jay! So, are you preferring the Bifrost on first blush?

post #3275 of 6156
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Originally Posted by Llloyd View Post
 

 

Nobody should be able to tell the difference. It's the same thing just using different technologies. The variable bit rate is to save space but can go as high as 320 when it needs to give that much information. Unless you meant between either of those two and FLAC? I know I can't tell the difference between 320 and flac anyway. I don't think that most people can even with exceptional gear.

Agreed for the most part. I did some blind A/B testing with a friend on Foobar. (320kbps files ripped from FLAC files then compared to the FLAC) For the most part I was able to hear the difference about 80% of the time or more. The difference is very, and I mean ear straining, immediate A/B switching listening. So yes... normally when just listening to music and not trying to analyze and hear the difference, it is basically negligible.

post #3276 of 6156
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post
 

Hey Jay! So, are you preferring the Bifrost on first blush?

well, lets start by saying, the bifrost i have, is usb2, no uber(yet),

the first thing that jumped out at me, was a little more bass, highs , while not harsh, not as smooth as the dacIT

now, when i had the modi, i did notice quite an improvement in its top end smoothing out over a few days

so far, so good, can really say one's better than the other though, just different

post #3277 of 6156

Just got my schiits (Bifrost & Lyr)

post #3278 of 6156
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

Just got my schiits (Bifrost & Lyr)

 

Congrats, welcome to the club!!

post #3279 of 6156

with what cans?

post #3280 of 6156
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Originally Posted by peepr View Post
 

with what cans?

Senn HD700 

post #3281 of 6156
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Originally Posted by Byronb View Post
 

 

Congrats, welcome to the club!!

Thanks!

post #3282 of 6156

Should I have to manually adjust the sample rate in the Audio MIDI Setup with the Bifrost? I have been playing mostly 44.1/16 in iTunes but when I went to the MIDI just now I saw it was set at 96/16. Isn't the Bifrost supposed to match all this up automatically with the clock? 

post #3283 of 6156
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Originally Posted by traehekat View Post

Should I have to manually adjust the sample rate in the Audio MIDI Setup with the Bifrost? I have been playing mostly 44.1/16 in iTunes but when I went to the MIDI just now I saw it was set at 96/16. Isn't the Bifrost supposed to match all this up automatically with the clock? 
I was doing that for a long time, then realized that when I didn't, I got a message from Jplay "dac switched sample rate" at the beginning of playback of whatever files. So yes, I believe Bifrost does that when it recieves the data. It just doesn't have indicator lights to say so.
post #3284 of 6156
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Originally Posted by gefski View Post


I was doing that for a long time, then realized that when I didn't, I got a message from Jplay "dac switched sample rate" at the beginning of playback of whatever files. So yes, I believe Bifrost does that when it recieves the data. It just doesn't have indicator lights to say so.

Thanks, yeah it looks like when I switch from 44.1 to 96 it changes automatically, but it doesn't change 16 to 24. 

post #3285 of 6156

Jason or mike.... could you PLEASE check the emails? I just want an answer one way or the other

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