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post #2896 of 6994
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

Yes Tuna, as jmsaxon69 says your Odac will be "smoked" LOL. Evaluating DACs are one of the harder things to do in this hobby, but once you "get it" you'll hear the differences loud and clear. I think you'll be happy with the Uber-Frost.

 

*jmsaxon you must remember to turn off your "invisibility mode" so people like Tuna stop ignoring you. LOL beerchug.gif

You made me laugh, cheers to you as well!  k701smile.gif


Edited by jmsaxon69 - 7/25/13 at 7:37pm
post #2897 of 6994

Arguing for the sake of arguing??  I just started skipping the novels.  Will wait for the movie.

Kinda reminded me of an old married couple I knew they just kept at it for no apparent reason....

 

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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post

Need some help have the he500 the lyr and I am using the Odac would the bifrost USB be a major upgrade in sound need advice

And yes the Bifrost is a very good option, works exceptionally well.


Edited by bearFNF - 7/25/13 at 8:09pm
post #2898 of 6994

From Schiit:

 

Does Lyr sound better than Asgard and Valhalla?
Does a bear schiit in the . . . nevermind. Short answer: yes. It’s much more dynamic than either amp, and will drive inefficient headphones with power and finesse. Until you’ve heard a headphone amp that’ll do 40V p-p into 32 ohms, you haven’t lived. Or, well, maybe you have lived, maybe you’ve scaled Everest solo, maybe you wrestled a grizzly bear, maybe you’ve paid $20 million to be a space tourist . . . but you still haven’t heard our 6-watt headphone amp!

 

HE500 & Lyr.. awesome combo!! (even though I've moved on from the HE500)

 

 

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Originally Posted by ab initio View Post

 

You told TheChoosenOne that if he/she got the HE-500 that they might have to upgrade to the Lyr. I was just commenting that the HE-500s fit within the Asgard's operational envelop and that the Lyr is optional according to theChoosenOne's taste. This is the only thing that you should have taken from my original post. I haven't seen anybody come out and say that the HE-500 doesn't work with the Asgard.

 

If this is incorrect, then I hope that Jason or Mike from Schiit will correct me. There are the only ones who have knowledge of the Asgard beyond what's reported on the Schiit website or subjective impressions.

 

 

By the way, the Schiit website specifically says that the Asgard works well with the HE-500.

 

Cheers!

post #2899 of 6994

in this chain in my upcoming magni, which part you think is the weak spot, apart from the headphone / IEM ?

 

PC - DACPort LX - Magni - COP / UM Miracle / RE-400 / Senn HD202 ii / Goldring DR-150 + custom cable 

 

any parts that i need change? cause the COP is what Im loving right now

post #2900 of 6994

Sorry guys, I only skimmed through the posts within the last couple pages...What I got from it is Asgard and I'm assuming Asgard 2 too, which I have, would make the HE-500s loud but would the sound quality be super amazing too without distortions and all that stuff?  I can go deaf if I put the volume all the way up with the horrible ipod earphones and listening to music on my computer or ipod/iphone but the sound quality is just horrific.  Also one more question, is the Bifrost Uber a good choice for the HE-500 or should I also save up for a more expensive, better dac?  I recently bought the Asgard 2 and Bifrost Uber about 2 weeks ago and kind of disappointed I might possibly need to upgrade them.  I'm thinking about getting the HE-500 within a couple months and I will only buy it brand new.


Edited by TheChosen0ne - 7/26/13 at 3:29am
post #2901 of 6994

[Changing Subject]

So, um, yeah. I just discovered that my Modi sounds awesome driving a Bravo V2 with a vintage Mullard tube in it. L3000.gif

 

Someday I'll have enough money to try one of these other awesome setups you guys are talking about.

 

So, how 'bout them Dodgers?

post #2902 of 6994
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Originally Posted by TheChosen0ne View Post

Sorry guys, I only skimmed through the posts within the last couple pages...What I got from it is Asgard and I'm assuming Asgard 2 too, which I have, would make the HE-500s loud but would the sound quality be super amazing too without distortions and all that stuff?  I can go deaf if I put the volume all the way up with the horrible ipod earphones and listening to music on my computer or ipod/iphone but the sound quality is just horrific.  Also one more question, is the Bifrost Uber a good choice for the HE-500 or should I also save up for a more expensive, better dac?  I recently bought the Asgard 2 and Bifrost Uber about 2 weeks ago and kind of disappointed I might possibly need to upgrade them.  I'm thinking about getting the HE-500 within a couple months and I will only buy it brand new.


How do you like the Asgard with the headphones you have now? Chances are, if you like the amp with what you have now, you will like it with the He-500s. I think everybody agrees that the Asgard will beat the pants off of iPods wink.gif

 

If you want Schiit's opinion:

Quote:
Will Asgard 2 drive orthos?
Many of them, yes. The HiFiMan HE400 and HE500 do well with Asgard 2, as well as the Audeze LCD2. The popular Fostex T50RP mods (Mad Dog, Paradox) are also well-served by Asgard 2.

 

That said, people also like other pairings with the the HE-500 as well, such as the Lyr.

 

I think everybody will agree that the order of biggest difference in audibility is (assuming you have a good quality source)

1) headphones make the biggest difference in sound

2) then amplifiers

3) then DACs

 

Try your headphones with what you got, and make a decision from there! biggrin.gif

 

Cheers

post #2903 of 6994
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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post

I find the HE 500 way superior to both the he400 or Akg 702 I would sell both and get the 500s

i find the he500 not worth 800 bucks soundwise comparing to the 250 bucks akg k702. honest personal opinion.

post #2904 of 6994

Anyone tried either the HD800 or T1 with the lyr?

post #2905 of 6994
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Originally Posted by TheChosen0ne View Post

Sorry guys, I only skimmed through the posts within the last couple pages...What I got from it is Asgard and I'm assuming Asgard 2 too, which I have, would make the HE-500s loud but would the sound quality be super amazing too without distortions and all that stuff?  I can go deaf if I put the volume all the way up with the horrible ipod earphones and listening to music on my computer or ipod/iphone but the sound quality is just horrific.  Also one more question, is the Bifrost Uber a good choice for the HE-500 or should I also save up for a more expensive, better dac?  I recently bought the Asgard 2 and Bifrost Uber about 2 weeks ago and kind of disappointed I might possibly need to upgrade them.  I'm thinking about getting the HE-500 within a couple months and I will only buy it brand new.


How so? What do you find lacking? If the step up from the E09K/E17 isn't big enough for you, then I'd argue you either need to go balanced (which costs significantly more) or just get different cans.

post #2906 of 6994
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Originally Posted by Overwerk View Post

i find the he500 not worth 800 bucks soundwise comparing to the 250 bucks akg k702. honest personal opinion.

 

If you paid 800 for your HE500 in 2013, you sir got ripped off. 

post #2907 of 6994
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheChosen0ne View Post

Sorry guys, I only skimmed through the posts within the last couple pages...What I got from it is Asgard and I'm assuming Asgard 2 too, which I have, would make the HE-500s loud but would the sound quality be super amazing too without distortions and all that stuff?  I can go deaf if I put the volume all the way up with the horrible ipod earphones and listening to music on my computer or ipod/iphone but the sound quality is just horrific.  Also one more question, is the Bifrost Uber a good choice for the HE-500 or should I also save up for a more expensive, better dac?  I recently bought the Asgard 2 and Bifrost Uber about 2 weeks ago and kind of disappointed I might possibly need to upgrade them.  I'm thinking about getting the HE-500 within a couple months and I will only buy it brand new.

Just get the Lyr and roll in some nice tubes. You'll hear a big change. Now if this wasn't the Schiit thread I would recommend you try the Emotiva from speaker taps, or other vintage receivers. If you can stretch your budget you can also get the Schiit Mjolnir. If you don't like the HE-500 from the Mjolnir or from speaker taps then the sound is just not for you. Asgard/Magni under power the HE-500 IMO, which gives them flabby bass and low dynmaic range in both the treble/bass ends of the frequency spectrum. It sounds slow/syurpy/boring instead of fast/nimble/explosive like it should from speaker taps or a more powerful amp.

 

As for DACs, you can go from the Uber Bifrost to the Concero, or if you can stretch you budget you can do the Matrix X-Sabre/Anedio D2. But IMO I think you need a more powerful amp first to realize the full potential of your HE-500.

 

As always YMMV, IMHO, etc,etc...

 

*Don't even bother responding to this ab initio unless you want to go another couple of pages of useless arguments with me like we did yesterday.

post #2908 of 6994
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post

 

If you paid 800 for your HE500 in 2013, you sir got ripped off. 

+1 LOL

 

Although I did pay $899 for my very first HE-500. basshead.gif (was still worth it btw)

post #2909 of 6994
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Originally Posted by Overwerk View Post

i find the he500 not worth 800 bucks soundwise comparing to the 250 bucks akg k702. honest personal opinion.

Your personal opinion is funny to me because I actually owned the AKG 702. And in my personal opinion your opinion is completely insane. Not sure what you were driving/sourcing your HE-500 with because it was your chain or more likely you had a broken HE-500.

post #2910 of 6994
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

Just get the Lyr and roll in some nice tubes. You'll hear a big change. Now if this wasn't the Schiit thread I would recommend you try the Emotiva from speaker taps, or other vintage receivers. If you can stretch your budget you can also get the Schiit Mjolnir. If you don't like the HE-500 from the Mjolnir or from speaker taps then the sound is just not for you. Asgard/Magni under power the HE-500 IMO, which gives them flabby bass and low dynmaic range in both the treble/bass ends of the frequency spectrum. It sounds slow/syurpy/boring instead of fast/nimble/explosive like it should from speaker taps or a more powerful amp.

 

As for DACs, you can go from the Uber Bifrost to the Concero, or if you can stretch you budget you can do the Matrix X-Sabre/Anedio D2. But IMO I think you need a more powerful amp first to realize the full potential of your HE-500.

 

As always YMMV, IMHO, etc,etc...

 

*Don't even bother responding to this ab initio unless you want to go another couple of pages of useless arguments with me like we did yesterday.

 

Relax man, people are allowed to have a different opinion. I'm totally okay with that.
beerchug.gif

 

Cheers!

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