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ATH-M50 vs DT-770

post #1 of 51
Thread Starter 

Hi everyone,

 

Sorry for bringing up an old topic, but I've been struggling to find a similar topic with a poster that listens to all the music that I do.


Anyways, I've done a ton of research on the two headphones, but I still can't choose between the two. The one thing I really like about the Beyerdynamics is that they are just so damn comfortable. That being said, it seems like some people think the Audiotechnicas are more versatile. I won't be running this through an amp, so that's pretty important. As for the music I listen to, it really does cover just about anything. I listen to rock (especially a lot of prog, post-rock, and instrumental rock), hip-hop, R&B, dubstep, house, other electronic music, jazz, funk, Latin jazz, reggae, blues, Afro-Cuban, dub, music from India, classical, soundtracks (both videogames and film), etc. The only genres I don't frequent are Metal and Country. I'll probably use them a bit for watching movies and maybe a little bit of gaming as well.

 

Oh yeah, I also already own a pair of Sennheiser HD280. I thought that should be put into consideration as well.

 

Thanks for the input everyone! I hope I'm not sounding like a completely broken record.


Edited by JBassFox - 3/15/12 at 11:21am
post #2 of 51

I own both the M50 and the DT770's

 

The M50 will run better than the DT770's volume wise.

 

When I use the same Ipod, the M50 is much louder than my 770's. Clarity wise, the 770 is a bit clearer and way way way more comfortable. I can wear them for hours.

 

My M50 is comfortable too, but I slightly start to sweat a tad bit after 20 mins of use.

 

the M50 sounds great and I think for your genre and since you wont be running an amp, the M50 will be the right choice for you and can be easily ran with any mp3 player.

 

I belive the M50 is 32ohm's compared to 770's which come in 80ohm's (the one you are planning on getting probably)

 

I've read that they have a 770 model that comes in 32ohm's also, but I wont say anything since I never heard them myself.

 

The M50 will be easier to take around than the 770's, but 770's does seem to have a better construction.

 

Good luck with your choice. If I was you, I would go M50 first choice, then 770 second.

 

Oh, btw, both M50 and 770 will sound way better than the HD280's you have. I had the 280's and just gave it to my cousin since I thought they did not sound good after I bought my M50's than the 770's

post #3 of 51

do you have an amp or are you planning on getting one? if not, i think you will be more happy with the M50. at 38 ohms, the require less power to drive them than the 80 (or 250 version) ohm DT-770.

when i was buying, i compared the M50 to the DT-770 and, again, without an amp, there is a very noticeable difference and i think you would enjoy the M50 more.

if you do have a headphone amp, then difference are more a matter of personal taste...

 

[edit] n/m regarding the amp... i see you don't have one and won't be getting one in the near future. sorry i missed that.


Edited by mzd - 3/15/12 at 11:49am
post #4 of 51

I don't have the DT-770 but I think the M50 is an awesome headphones for electronica, hip-hop, R&B, dubstep, house, funk and dub.  I think they are great but not awesome for prog-rock, instrumental (if you mean mogwai, explosion in the sky, etc.) and rock and general.  I think they tend to be a flatter headphone with lots of detail but feels like they lack some punch.  I find myself turning them up but can't quite get the meatiness of the electric guitar or snap of the snare with some rock music.  I've been reading some Grado reviews to see what the hype is all about.  Again, personal opinion/preference and I run mine without an amp using Spotify/Iphone 4.  

 

Los

post #5 of 51

The question is: Do you want that classy German design of the Beyer or crude and does the job style ATH?

 

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post #6 of 51

I really don't think there's much that the M50's do better than the DT 770 Pro's. I think unamped the M50's might have better bass control, but other than that, I think the DT 770 Pro's do everything better. Bigger soundstage, much better mids, a little smoother top end, much more comfortable, isolate better, etc.

post #7 of 51
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Originally Posted by JBassFox View Post

Hi everyone,

 

Sorry for bringing up an old topic, but I've been struggling to find a similar topic with a poster that listens to all the music that I do.


Anyways, I've done a ton of research on the two headphones, but I still can't choose between the two. The one thing I really like about the Beyerdynamics is that they are just so damn comfortable. That being said, it seems like some people think the Audiotechnicas are more versatile. I won't be running this through an amp, so that's pretty important. As for the music I listen to, it really does cover just about anything. I listen to rock (especially a lot of prog, post-rock, and instrumental rock), hip-hop, R&B, dubstep, house, other electronic music, jazz, funk, Latin jazz, reggae, blues, Afro-Cuban, dub, music from India, classical, soundtracks (both videogames and film), etc. The only genres I don't frequent are Metal and Country. I'll probably use them a bit for watching movies and maybe a little bit of gaming as well.

 

Oh yeah, I also already own a pair of Sennheiser HD280. I thought that should be put into consideration as well.

 

Thanks for the input everyone! I hope I'm not sounding like a completely broken record.


Buy both.

 

Return one.

 

I vastly prefer the DT770. It does need a little amplification, but you don't need a super expensive one or anything. A basic unit does more than enough. It sounds better and feels better and looks better than the M50. If your budget is absolute and you cannot afford a small amplifier for the DT770, then I would just get the Shure SRH840 or Ultrasone HFI 780 and not the M50.

 

Very best,

 

post #8 of 51

This is exactly what I think of these two cans. Less bass control when unamped is the only weak point of DT770 when compared to M50 based on my taste.
 

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Originally Posted by Kukuk View Post

I really don't think there's much that the M50's do better than the DT 770 Pro's. I think unamped the M50's might have better bass control, but other than that, I think the DT 770 Pro's do everything better. Bigger soundstage, much better mids, a little smoother top end, much more comfortable, isolate better, etc.



 

post #9 of 51
Thread Starter 

My only real issue than is the amp. I'm doing my best to avoid getting one. If I did want to get the DT770s, how much would I have to spend on an amp? I'm only using these indoors, so I have no need for a portable one.

post #10 of 51

The DT770 Pro's do benefit from an amp, but they really don't need one. It adds a level of refinement, but they are still totally enjoyable without one. I'd imagine something as simple as the FiiO E6 would be good enough.

post #11 of 51

Without an amp, DT770 actually sounds worse than M50 from my experience. I haven't tried them amped, though.

post #12 of 51
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Originally Posted by Bill-P View Post

Without an amp, DT770 actually sounds worse than M50 from my experience. I haven't tried them amped, though.



I disagree. The more level mids alone make the DT770's sound better to me.

post #13 of 51

I find the M50 a more fun can and the DT770 more accurate of the two. The deal breaker for me was the comfort, in which I vastly preferred the DT770 over the M50 (which has those top of the head-pressuring headbands that I simply cannot stand)

post #14 of 51
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Originally Posted by Kukuk View Post

I disagree. The more level mids alone make the DT770's sound better to me.


From my brief time auditing the DT770, that wasn't the case at all.

 

Then again, I think it's worth noting that my M50 is not like some other M50s with more recessed mid. Mine has a lot more forward mid.

post #15 of 51
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Originally Posted by JBassFox View Post

My only real issue than is the amp. I'm doing my best to avoid getting one. If I did want to get the DT770s, how much would I have to spend on an amp? I'm only using these indoors, so I have no need for a portable one.


Heya,

 

If you're on PC, you can go with an Asus Xonar DG soundcard for $30, has a great amp and other nice options. Other options include the Hifiman HM101, a used Fiio E7 ($50!) or E10, CMOY, here's a used Bravo V2 tube amp, Muse 6N11 tube amp, etc.

 

Also, if you have an old AV reciever, use it. It's fine too. Pick one up off craigslist for nothing, or troll some yard sales for an old AV receiver. Any. You can also fine them on places like ebay but only bother if the shipping is free.

 

Very best,

 

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