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post #496 of 1376
5/15/12 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

Oh god :L i have never heard of russ ahaah :L shows how noobie i still am ;) Anyway congrats! By the way is level three high or low?

highest - and neither do I...you're not the only one to feel like a noob lol


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post #497 of 1376
5/15/12 at 12:35pm
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Therefore raffle prizes will be henceforth categorised as 1, 2 or 3 at the meet. Each raffle entrant can only win one category 1 prize and another category 2 or 3 prize. Raffle ticket holders can win a category 2 and 3 prize, but no more prizes. If someone wins a category 2 or 3 prize, they may still win a category 1 prize.

 

From this it seems that cat. 1 is the highest and cat. 3 is the lowest. I don't think giving me a $600 amp just because I happened to know the name of a UK cable/tweak dealer would be very fair (though I wouldn't complain wink.gif).

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post #498 of 1376
5/15/12 at 1:38pm

with my dad being an elec engineer PHD i think he would pretty much kill himself if he read this (off russ' website)

 

"The UltraSockets™ have a very high build quality and this translates into the better sound: they sounded more open, smoother and bass was tighter and cleaner, with more weight."

 

 

this is about power sockets its is simply impossible for it to effect sound...dont mean to get into sound science here but that really shocked me

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post #499 of 1376
5/15/12 at 1:43pm
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this is about power sockets its is simply impossible for it to effect sound...dont mean to get into sound science here but that really shocked me

 

Guess those sockets aren't very well insulated then!

 

I'll stop posting now...

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post #500 of 1376
5/15/12 at 2:09pm

LMAO. that really shouldnt have made me laugh as much as it did =\ i think exam stress is making me delerious now

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post #501 of 1376
5/16/12 at 4:20am
Thread Starter 

JoetheArachnid,

 

You are correct in surmising the prize level categorisations. So a level 3 raffle prize will be a cable or inexpensive headphones for example.

 

Cheers,

 

Andy. 

 

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Originally Posted by JoetheArachnid View Post

 

From this it seems that cat. 1 is the highest and cat. 3 is the lowest. I don't think giving me a $600 amp just because I happened to know the name of a UK cable/tweak dealer would be very fair (though I wouldn't complain wink.gif).

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post #502 of 1376
5/16/12 at 4:23am
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Originally Posted by smial1966 View Post

JoetheArachnid,

 

You are correct in surmising the prize level categorisations. So a level 3 raffle prize will be a cable or inexpensive headphones for example.

 

my bad then! :)!

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post #503 of 1376
5/16/12 at 4:44am
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big-man,

 

Healthy skepticism about marketing information is a good thing and highly justifiable given the exhorbitant cost of some aftermarket audio accessories.  

 

Russ Andrews is undeniably a controversial figure and tends to polarise audiophiles opinions about him into either a 'love' or loathe' category. I'm hoping that Russ will conduct a listening A-B test, whereby he plays a music track on equipment using standard interconnects, power cord, untreated CD etc, and then swaps in some of his cables for a comparative test. Although highly unscientific, this methodology will enable us to 'hear' any sonic differences using accessories from his range. 

 

Cheers,

 

Andy. 

 

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Originally Posted by big-man View Post

with my dad being an elec engineer PHD i think he would pretty much kill himself if he read this (off russ' website)

 

"The UltraSockets™ have a very high build quality and this translates into the better sound: they sounded more open, smoother and bass was tighter and cleaner, with more weight."

 

 

this is about power sockets its is simply impossible for it to effect sound...dont mean to get into sound science here but that really shocked me

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post #504 of 1376
5/16/12 at 4:47am
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Totally Dubbed,

 

deadhorse.gif

 

Cheers,

 

Andy. 

 

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my bad then! :)!

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post #505 of 1376
5/16/12 at 5:13am

i would like to try an A+B test to be honest, would be interesting to see if different people have different reactions

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post #506 of 1376
5/16/12 at 12:21pm
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big-man,

 

An A-B test will be interesting and undoubtedly throw up mixed results, as some listeners will hear audible differences and others won't, so a straw poll after this exercise will determine whether there's a consensus in favour of the accessories effect on 'sound improvement' or not. 

 

Cheers,

 

Andy. 

 

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i would like to try an A+B test to be honest, would be interesting to see if different people have different reactions

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post #507 of 1376
5/16/12 at 12:41pm

Would the A-B test be blind or sighted? (ie whether you know which component is being used when or you don't.) That could have a fairly significant effect on results.

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post #508 of 1376
5/16/12 at 12:51pm
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JoetheArachnid,

 

Good point, as I hadn't considered this. If there are screens available we can do a 'blind' test, otherwise it may be a case of a few people standing in line to shield the equipment from view.

 

Cheers,

 

Andy. 

 

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Would the A-B test be blind or sighted? (ie whether you know which component is being used when or you don't.) That could have a fairly significant effect on results.

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post #509 of 1376
5/16/12 at 12:59pm
Blind would be more honest and effective I think! I am Well up for taking part!
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post #510 of 1376
5/16/12 at 2:25pm

Quite agree with point made by JoetheArachnid, if the test is sighted then I believe it has dubious validity.  This is a highly contentious area discussed by Douglas Self among others.

I was at the Bristol Show in April, took in a few demos, (spent some time listening to the Senny HD700 which I liked.)  However, back to the point, I sat in a fascinating demo by Nordost.

 

Differences between cables and mains distribution/conditioners were apparent. 

 

In many of these demos the audience is told what the improvements will be and sure enough is amazed to hear said improvement.  I believe there is an element of skilful salesmanship and applied psychology at work.

 

P.S  Thank you smial1966 for getting this meet going.  I was hoping another one would be arranged, I enjoyed the day in London last year.

 

I could bring Arcam CD36, Arcam rDAC, one or two of my DIY amps and HD650 and LCD2.  My amps are the same as last year but changes made to interconnects and mains cables have improved the music for me.

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