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post #316 of 1184
I am still deciding between the fusion and the pure silver litz cable

Hard to choose when auditioning them is inpossible
post #317 of 1184
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Originally Posted by achl354 View Post

I am still deciding between the fusion and the pure silver litz cable

Hard to choose when auditioning them is inpossible

 

Silver litz :D Why? It's silver. :D I've had both and can't decide between the two still.

post #318 of 1184
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Silver litz :D Why? It's silver. :D I've had both and can't decide between the two still.

care to share some of ur feedback on the two?

post #319 of 1184
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Silver litz :D Why? It's silver. :D I've had both and can't decide between the two still.

care to share some of ur feedback on the two?

 

The DHC Silver litz is an astounding detail monster, nothing is left out, well mastered music is fantastic......the DHC Fusion has all the details, but they are delivered in a more polite manner, and is a little easier on sensitive ears.  I have never heard a DHC cable I didn't like.....Peter is very keen on producing the very best leading edge cable technology, and is very knowledgeable and creative.  "If he will build it I will come", needles to say I'm a hooked devoted follower!

post #320 of 1184
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The DHC Silver litz is an astounding detail monster, nothing is left out, well mastered music is fantastic......the DHC Fusion has all the details, but they are delivered in a more polite manner, and is a little easier on sensitive ears.  I have never heard a DHC cable I didn't like.....Peter is very keen on producing the very best leading edge cable technology, and is very knowledgeable and creative.  "If he will build it I will come", needles to say I'm a hooked devoted follower!

So the silver litz would be a little too.... cold and aggresive (HARSH, i should say) sounding? I listen to a broad range of music, ranging from some classical to japanese anime songs. I have tried the whiplash v3 8 braid hybrid, and comparing to my silver/gold (uber) cable from tralucent, the hybrid has a flatter sound, less layering/details, but is more 'polite' in a sense that it is never too aggressive sounding. The vocal is a little laid back also compared to silver gold cable.

 

Would it be possible if you can roughly let me know which genre of music each cable 'might' be better with?

And with the silver litz, how would you describe the sonic difference comparted to the fusion? (according to Pete, they both should offer the same amount of details and soundstg, but the fushion would be warmer due to the copper obviously)

 

my portable set up : ak120 with 1plus2 (on the go), or with kojo km01 amp when stationary listening


Edited by achl354 - 12/13/13 at 7:29am
post #321 of 1184
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The DHC Silver litz is an astounding detail monster, nothing is left out, well mastered music is fantastic......the DHC Fusion has all the details, but they are delivered in a more polite manner, and is a little easier on sensitive ears.  I have never heard a DHC cable I didn't like.....Peter is very keen on producing the very best leading edge cable technology, and is very knowledgeable and creative.  "If he will build it I will come", needles to say I'm a hooked devoted follower!

So the silver litz would be a little too.... cold and aggresive (HARSH, i should say) sounding? I listen to a broad range of music, ranging from some classical to japanese anime songs. I have tried the whiplash v3 8 braid hybrid, and comparing to my silver/gold (uber) cable from tralucent, the hybrid has a flatter sound, less layering/details, but is more 'polite' in a sense that it is never too aggressive sounding. The vocal is a little laid back also compared to silver gold cable.

 

Would it be possible if you can roughly let me know which genre of music each cable 'might' be better with?

And with the silver litz, how would you describe the sonic difference comparted to the fusion? (according to Pete, they both should offer the same amount of details and soundstg, but the fushion would be warmer due to the copper obviously)

 

my portable set up : ak120 with 1plus2 (on the go), or with kojo km01 amp when stationary listening

 

Peter is spot on with same amount of detail/soundstage, but fusion is warmer throughout.  They are both extremely good with well mastered tracks.....I have a lot of acoustical, celtic, classical, jazz, that are great with either one, especially if you like low volume listening, ie the details are still there even at low volume.  The Silver is never too cold or aggressive, never HARSH, but revealing of your source.  My files are all flac, 16/44m 24/88 and 24/96, but poor mastering will be revealed.  I am moving up in the Audiophile type music chain, beware of a lot of bad mastering even at high bit rates.  Brendan Perry (Dead Can Dance), has some good examples of both good and bad mastering on some albums, for example. Celine Dion has well mastered content.  Celtic Woman singers vary, depending on the CD.  I have a couple of Sarah Brightman albums that are well done, but upstream gears should be of good quality.  A cable purchase should only be made after your upstream gears are as good as can be.....otherwise, no matter the cable, mixed results could be happen.  Even you anatomy, shape of your ears, the way your HP's sit on your head, etc, a lot of variables.  I am using a tube amp, and Audio-GS WM8741 DAC, source from my high end Denon player, or jRiver Media Center 18, via computer.  I also have Pure Silver USB to SPDIF converter, pure silver or high end glass optical to my DAC....so lot of subtle tweaks in my chain

 

Hope this helps a bit!

post #322 of 1184
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Peter is spot on with same amount of detail/soundstage, but fusion is warmer throughout.  They are both extremely good with well mastered tracks.....I have a lot of acoustical, celtic, classical, jazz, that are great with either one, especially if you like low volume listening, ie the details are still there even at low volume.  The Silver is never too cold or aggressive, never HARSH, but revealing of your source.  My files are all flac, 16/44m 24/88 and 24/96, but poor mastering will be revealed.  I am moving up in the Audiophile type music chain, beware of a lot of bad mastering even at high bit rates.  Brendan Perry (Dead Can Dance), has some good examples of both good and bad mastering on some albums, for example. Celine Dion has well mastered content.  Celtic Woman singers vary, depending on the CD.  I have a couple of Sarah Brightman albums that are well done, but upstream gears should be of good quality.  A cable purchase should only be made after your upstream gears are as good as can be.....otherwise, no matter the cable, mixed results could be happen.  Even you anatomy, shape of your ears, the way your HP's sit on your head, etc, a lot of variables.  I am using a tube amp, and Audio-GS WM8741 DAC, source from my high end Denon player, or jRiver Media Center 18, via computer.  I also have Pure Silver USB to SPDIF converter, pure silver or high end glass optical to my DAC....so lot of subtle tweaks in my chain

 

Hope this helps a bit!

Thx so much for the reply, I try to keep my files all flac or high quality wave files. I am hoping to source more hi-res files or even DSD files eventually.

 

I am glad u brought up the point regarding listening volume. I find myself listening mostly (but not at extended period of time) at moderate to louder than average volume, thats why i am concerned about the cable been too harsh/aggressive, since at louder volumes, it will be more unbearable or more fatigue to listen to.

 

sometimes with warmer sound, i find some background details, or softer sound details to be less clear in shape. 

 

Would you say the fusion has slightly narrower (what i mean is things seem more close together) soundstage than the silver? and what about the vocal positioning? (would either sound similar or is one hv a more laid back or projected vocal?) 

post #323 of 1184

Cute just keeps taking words out of my mouth!

 

Rather than the fusion having a narrower SS, it seems like the Silver Peptide just has a holographic soundstage. If you want background and minute details, SP is the way to go for sure.

post #324 of 1184

All the details are still there with the Fusion, IMO....but I think the copper warmth brings vocals/mids more forward.....I really notice that with the DT990 600 ohm and DT880 600 ohm, they are both known for vocals that are further back from the listening position.  With the Fusion on either of those phones, the vocals/mids are more like my Senn HD580,  Now I am biased, because I like my mids, but all of my HP are open back because I like a huge soundstage.  I use crossfeed in jRiver Media Center 18, and that makes for less fatigue, and a sound more enjoyable, akin to speakers, where you get some of the L and R sound in each year, I use standard spatialization setting in crossfeed, but with my HD580 I can bump the crossfeed to increased spatioaliztion to widen the soundstage making the soundstage wider like the Beyer's, works well with older mastering where instraments were more conjested sounding because of mike placement.  Modern mastering tends to be a lot more advanced.  The Fusion does have excellent separation/placement queues, but the Silver Peptide and the Fusion do each have their own sound, and genre, mastering and personal preference will also play into how they sound to you personally.  Most think cables are snake oit.....I have proven that wrong, at least to my self by trying a multitude of wire/cables over the last year.  To me, rolling cables is much like rolling IEM tips, HP Earpads, amps and tubes, as well as a change in DAC.  A lot happens from the time a mastered track is engineered and when it reaches your ears/brain....can be very subjective.  Everyone has a different setup, and a different anatomy.......you need to make your own decision and try things for yourself.  A lot of bad press on the HD700 for instance, I really like mine, and I have yet to start swapping in the detachable cables that I have....plenty of exciting times ahead.

post #325 of 1184
Anyone had experiencr with the piccolino,fusion and or silver peptide?

the two cables both seem like rxcellent choice but without comparing relativeky to something that i can reference to, i still hv no clue how they sound, frown.gif
post #326 of 1184

I currently have the fusion. I havent had it for long though

post #327 of 1184

Sorry, I'm taking quite a long time to finish this review. Quite a unique cable, indeed. 

post #328 of 1184
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Originally Posted by achl354 View Post

Anyone had experiencr with the piccolino,fusion and or silver peptide?

the two cables both seem like rxcellent choice but without comparing relativeky to something that i can reference to, i still hv no clue how they sound, frown.gif

 

Piccolino was an excellent cable to listen to. However, it glazed over details more than the Fusion did. You have better options for the money.

post #329 of 1184

No rush Austin, it's a hard life testing all these cables.

post #330 of 1184
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Originally Posted by scootermafia View Post
 

No rush Austin, it's a hard life testing all these cables.

 

I should have it done tonight, you just always end up righting more than you think as you're attaching and re-attaching difference cables, switching form balanced to single ended, and...well, you get the picture, a lot goes into a review. ;)

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