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post #31 of 133
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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

Yes, I would indeed need a good stick to mod...the official DC is great because its top panel is non-sticky, but the color scheme is pretty horrid(including the yellow start button). Most cheap sticks are made of flimsy plastic that just feels cheap and their top panel gets terribly sticky after a little while.

 

OK, sounds like a plan! I will try G5 and Ikaruga GC, they might just convince me to build an arcade stick again evil_smiley.gif

 

Well, I'm all for butter-smooth 24p movies and 60fps videogames...all I've seen in MAME were very old hiccuping games. There's only so much you can expect from a 30yo videogames cabinet ^^

 

Awaiting your feedback on LS-58-01 then! I hope you bought the octogonal restrictors as well, coz these things are hell fun to dodge bullets.


I did not get the octo gate, but that's because I've heard very good things about the square. The diagonals have longer throw on a square gate, which is supposedly better for shmups because it helps prevent accidental moves. Either way I know where to get the octo if I need it, so it won't be a huge issue.

 

If you do go through with it, I wish you the best. It's not an inexpensive project, although compared to some of the stuff on this forum it sure seems that way.

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That looks very interesting indeed. And very frustrating, because there are SO MANY SHMUPS OUT FOR XBOX AND I DON"T HAVE MINE...

 

I seriously need to buy a new one. This is becoming ridiculous.

 

post #32 of 133

The depth of the notch doesn't change the activation point.  

post #33 of 133

I should really pick up an Xbox again later this year...Just to play Schmups. Finally just bite the bullet and import all the CAVE 360 releases. 
 

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Sine Mora is out on XBL for 1200 points. ($15)Looks like I'll be picking this up at some point.


 

 

post #34 of 133
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The depth of the notch doesn't change the activation point.  


Yeah, I know. The engage distances are the same. But the diagonals have more travel until the actual edge of the gate. According to what I've read, this can be very helpful to some players. I'm just going to have to experiment to figure out what works best for me.

 



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I should really pick up an Xbox again later this year...Just to play Schmups. Finally just bite the bullet and import all the CAVE 360 releases.


I just don't understand why Xbox. Live is a very useful distribution platform, true, but the Xbox controller isn't really made for the kind of precise movements expected in many shooters. You'd think that there would be multi-console releases, at the very least, but no.

 

post #35 of 133

I'm still seeking a good foster stick...I've seen a xbox360 Hori Tekken 6 for $39 at a pawn shop, but it seems too thin and the artwork is horrid. OTOH, it's non-sticky and neither too small or big.

 

I still think the agetec/official DC is the perfect stick, but the colors scheme is terrible.

 

I'll dig harder, but I kinda like the apple look of those wii sticks: http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?179535-How-to-Mod-your-Hori-Fighting-Stick-Wii

 

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will also need to make up my mind on the stick...apparently you cannot get an octo gate for the LS32.


Edited by leeperry - 3/24/12 at 8:53am
post #36 of 133

OTOH, Ben Shinobi is able to 1CC pretty much any game out there: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53811

 

and he went through Gradius V with the non-dualshock PSX gamepad ^^

post #37 of 133

all your jitter are belong to us: http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/a-novel-method-for-testing-input-lag.154427/

 

I lost coz this PCB is jittery as hell tongue.gif

post #38 of 133
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Originally Posted by Softdrink 117 View Post

 

I just finished placing my orders for the stick-- I'm going to use an Eightarc Onyx as a base, due to low cost, insane quality, and low shipping (within California, at least). I also ordered an LS-58-01, so I should be able to directly compare the JLF and LS-58 once they get here. EXCITED!!!


Well, I just traded some audio stuff for one of those sticks, used for 50 hours only: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230534463432&orig_cvip=true

 

It supports Seimitsu/Sanwa sticks OOTB: http://www.ebay.com/itm/230687045171

 

I think I'll order a LS56 and its octo gate plus a sanwa octo gate of course...apparently it's a winner all the way: http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/seimitsu-ls-56-01-vs-sanwa-jlf-tp-8yt-sk-joystick.149965/

 

I'm tempted to get some Seimitsu springs as well, that supposedly do wonders in the Sanwa's. I want a stiffer octo Sanwa basically, with a narrower dead center zone.

 

I'll have an Ikaruga artwork printed as well, et voilà ))

 

And the nice added value of PC emulators is that musics will go through my USB DAC, not the cheapie onboard chips of those old consoles evil_smiley.gif


Edited by leeperry - 3/27/12 at 4:03pm
post #39 of 133
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Well, I just traded some audio stuff for one of those sticks, used for 50 hours only: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230534463432&orig_cvip=true

 

It supports Seimitsu/Sanwa sticks OOTB: http://www.ebay.com/itm/230687045171

 

I think I'll order a LS56 and its octo gate plus a sanwa octo gate of course...apparently it's a winner all the way: http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/seimitsu-ls-56-01-vs-sanwa-jlf-tp-8yt-sk-joystick.149965/

 

I'm tempted to get some Seimitsu springs as well, that supposedly do wonders in the Sanwa's. I want a stiffer octo Sanwa basically, with a narrower dead center zone.

 

I'll have an Ikaruga artwork printed as well, et voilà ))

 

And the nice added value of PC emulators is that musics will go through my USB DAC, not the cheapie onboard chips of those old consoles evil_smiley.gif

 

Sorry for the late response; finals and illness consuming my life these past few days. Sounds like you're well on your way.


Mine just arrived today. It's NIIIIIIICE... Definitely going to need an artwork change soon though. The felt on the bottom is ridiculously effective, and the overall build quality is excellent.

 

The LS-58 hasn't been installed yet, but I already prefer it to the JLF. The Sanwa's dead zone is MASSIVE by comparison, and it feels mushy and loose. But I will certainly give it a try, as it has far too much 'street cred' to be dismissed so easily. Interestingly, the default mounting plate for the LS-58 fits the JLF's normal mount holes, which is quite awesome.

 

The LS-58 and LS-56 are very closely related. I forget what exactly the differences are, but they're quite minor-- like, one has a stiffer spring and a slightly longer shaft, or something.

 

This is very true. Very true indeed.

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well yeah, and the dead zone gets worse and worse on the JLF so after +100H it becomes quite annoying.

 

I want to get a Seimitsu for sure, and apparently only the LS58 has an octo gate available, so that narrows down my choice quite a bit..lucky me tongue_smile.gif

 

The stick I'm getting is massive so I'll have to damp the inside otherwise it's gonna be a clicky resonant feast haha.


Edited by leeperry - 3/27/12 at 6:18pm
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post #42 of 133
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well yeah, and the dead zone gets worse and worse on the JLF so after +100H it becomes quite annoying.

 

I want to get a Seimitsu for sure, and apparently only the LS58 has an octo gate available, so that narrows down my choice quite a bit..lucky me tongue_smile.gif

 

The stick I'm getting is massive so I'll have to damp the inside otherwise it's gonna be a clicky resonant feast haha.


You can always mod a Sanwa octo gate to fit the mounting holes on the Seimitsu sticks if you really need to.

 

The dead zone gets bigger?! This is indeed a problem.

 

Mine is pretty big too, though not quite that size. I might want to dampen it at some point as well.
 


See, I know what I'm talking about... Usually.

 

Also, to get a little bit more on topic, I was playing the iOS port of Deathsmiles the other day. The story mode is locked at the easiest difficulty until you've beaten it once. So I figured I might try to beat it. And ended up 1CC'ing the game without being hit once. Even on a low difficulty, that felt nice.

 

post #43 of 133

I'm getting a LS32 spring, it could/should/would do nicely in the JLF ^^

 

and yes the LS58 mounting holes seem identical to the JLF.


Edited by leeperry - 3/27/12 at 7:00pm
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so do you have any b/w Ikaruga artwork?

 

This is my stick: http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7523/p1000229s.jpg

 

I will populate it w/ b/w 30mm buttons only: http://www.focusattack.com/black-rim-sanwa-obsf-30mm-pushbutton-white-black/

 

and prolly use one of those: http://www.ikaruga.co.uk/files/misc/


Edited by leeperry - 3/28/12 at 6:46am
post #45 of 133
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I'm getting a LS32 spring, it could/should/would do nicely in the JLF ^^

 

and yes the LS58 mounting holes seem identical to the JLF.


Terrible news! The holes aren't quite identical, at least in my case. They're off by like 2-3mm. So I have to buy another plate... And will take the opportunity to buy the octo gates for both sticks.

 

In other news, I really like the Sanwa despite the large neutral zone, so who knows, I might end up sticking with it.


 

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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

so do you have any b/w Ikaruga artwork?

 

This is my stick: http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7523/p1000229s.jpg

 

I will populate it w/ b/w 30mm buttons only: http://www.focusattack.com/black-rim-sanwa-obsf-30mm-pushbutton-white-black/

 

and prolly use one of those: http://www.ikaruga.co.uk/files/misc/


I was going to use photoshop and mash some of those together, probably. Or maybe do some custom scratch artwork if I had the time. Here's a couple desktop backgrounds I made a while ago, using various official art pieces.

 

Ikaruga Wallpaper, 1920 x 1080, white on black

Ikaruga Wallpaper, 1920 x 1080, black on white

 

If you want me to do something like that for you, I can. I would just need the template design for your stick and some basic suggestions on what you wanted on there. But I'll be out of town for a few days, so it can't happen until Monday.

 

EDIT:

I just found some illustrations I thought had been lost forever. That directory you linked has way more in it than I thought. Thanks!


Edited by Softdrink 117 - 3/28/12 at 2:40pm
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