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All the talk about endgame can make us lose sight of what matters, enjoying music.  I wondered to myself the other day how much better my amp might be over an ECBA or a Stratus, but then thought what does it matter?  And what would knowing that change?  Nothing.  I'm happy and content and am enjoying music.  All there is to it.  :)

 

i wish i could do that as well and save money! but i do like tube sound and want amp/amps that use all the tubes i currently have.

 

as for ECBA, i didn't like it a whole lot.

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If you like what you have now, stop looking. Your wallet will love you...biggrin.gif

 

I probably wasn't expressing myself well.  There is a tendency on this forum to be hyper aware of how one's gear compares to what else is out there, and was just implying that focusing on this too much makes us lose perspective sometimes.

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as for ECBA, i didn't like it a whole lot.

What didn't you like about the ECBA if I may ask?

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I think for high impedance phones this OTL can't be beat at least not for the HD-650 or HD-800.
At 1/2 the price of other amps.
LCD-2 or3 I would recommend the C3g > 300B why a 45 or 2A3 when the transformers cost
the same for the 300b and it could also drive speakers. Whatever rectifier is not that important.
On a high quality tube amp the output transformers are the most important part even over expensive tubes.
JJ300Bs can be got for $200 a pair and sound good.
I like to use tubes that can be got for cheep and outperform these boutique over priced tubes.
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What didn't you like about the ECBA if I may ask?

 

bright and kinda lean, way too fast sounding, fatiguing with hd 800. 

 

great clarity though, but too bright, and not worth the 4k price tag

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I like to use tubes that can be got for cheep and outperform these boutique over priced tubes.

I like the sound of that! 

 

Does it cost much more to have the transformers covered like in this pic? - 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/600110/lightbox/post/9838558/id/939650

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Originally Posted by 2359glenn View Post

I think for high impedance phones this OTL can't be beat at least not for the HD-650 or HD-800.
At 1/2 the price of other amps.
LCD-2 or3 I would recommend the C3g > 300B why a 45 or 2A3 when the transformers cost
the same for the 300b and it could also drive speakers. Whatever rectifier is not that important.
On a high quality tube amp the output transformers are the most important part even over expensive tubes.
JJ300Bs can be got for $200 a pair and sound good.
I like to use tubes that can be got for cheep and outperform these boutique over priced tubes.

 

i want an amp that sounds good stock of course, but that becomes extremely good after using boutique/unobtainium tubes.

 

the tube amp would mainly be for high impedances for me, which is why an otl would be nice. it would be nice if it worked for low impedance like K701, grados, denons, etc as well.

 

i wouldn't use orthos on it, that would be for my GS-X mk2.

 

i do want to be able to use my 5U4G/274B/GZ34/GZ37/5R4GY tubes and their variants. since i don't want to sell any of them and i like tube rolling :D 

 

your OTL supports all the 7236/6AS7G/6080/5998/421A tube types right?


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 10/22/13 at 3:18pm
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bright and kinda lean, way too fast sounding, fatiguing with hd 800. 

 

great clarity though, but too bright, and not worth the 4k price tag

 

Was it the 300B/PX4 or the 45/2A3 version of the amp?  I myself was surprised at what the 45 tube actually sounds like.  Because it is such an old tube you get a certain idea that it will have that tubey sound, but it indeed a very fast and rather lit up sound like you describe.  I don't think my amp sounds lean though, just very truthful to the music.  It suits the LCD-2 very very well.  My DT880's........ not so much.  :o  Then again I tried the DT880s on my OTL the next day and wasn't liking it then either so I think the amazing sound I'm getting from the 45 > LCD-2 combo has just ruined me for the Beyers in general.


Edited by Xcalibur255 - 10/22/13 at 3:50pm
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Was it the 300B/PX4 or the 45/2A3 version of the amp?  I myself was surprised at what the 45 tube actually sounds like.  Because it is such an old tube you get a certain idea that it will have that tubey sound, but it indeed a very fast and rather lit up sound like you describe.  I don't think my amp sounds lean though, just very truthful to the music.  It suits the LCD-2 very very well.  My DT880's........ not so much.  :o  Then again I tried the DT880s on my OTL the next day and wasn't liking it then either so I think the amazing sound I'm getting from the 45 > LCD-2 combo has just ruined me for the Beyers in general.

300b/px4

 

interested in what a 2a3/45 amp would be like. 

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What do you guys mean by an amp sounding fast?
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

i want an amp that sounds good stock of course, but that becomes extremely good after using boutique/unobtainium tubes.

 

the tube amp would mainly be for high impedances for me, which is why an otl would be nice. it would be nice if it worked for low impedance like K701, grados, denons, etc as well.

 

i wouldn't use orthos on it, that would be for my GS-X mk2.

 

i do want to be able to use my 5U4G/274B/GZ34/GZ37/5R4GY tubes and their variants. since i don't want to sell any of them and i like tube rolling :D 

 

your OTL supports all the 7236/6AS7G/6080/5998/421A tube types right?


Glenn's OTL design is much more flexible than the WA2, it drives low impedance headphones with authority which is unusual for an OTL design.  It has moved away from the 5998 toward the 6336 because both Glenn and I have had headphones blown up by 5998 tubes with shorts.  The 6336 is a demanding tube in terms of current draw, most of the rectifiers you mention are not usable with this setup.  Even the 6AS7 will overtax many of them.  But, like I mentioned the other day the 3DG4 sounds really good and costs nothing.  Why spend all that money on different tubes when you don't gain anything from it in terms of performance?  If you like to roll just to get different flavors the 6SN7 driver stage is the one to roll for fun.

 

Just my 02 cents.

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our OTL supports all the 7236/6AS7G/6080/5998/421A tube types right?
Yes It can take all these.
And it can drive lower impedance headphones if you try 6336 output tubes
inplace of the 6AS7. you just have to use a powerful rectifier with them.
3DG4 , 5AU4 , GZ37 no 5U4G maybe a 5U4GB or 596 will work with these tubes.
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Originally Posted by dminches View Post

What do you guys mean by an amp sounding fast?


Faster transient and impulse response.  Something SS amps are traditionally better at than tube amps, but it all comes down to design.  Generalizations mean nothing in the face of talented design I have found.

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Glenn's OTL design is much more flexible than the WA2, it drives low impedance headphones with authority which is unusual for an OTL design.  It has moved away from the 5998 toward the 6336 because both Glenn and I have had headphones blown up by 5998 tubes with shorts.  The 6336 is a demanding tube in terms of current draw, most of the rectifiers you mention are not usable with this setup.  Even the 6AS7 will overtax many of them.  But, like I mentioned the other day the 3DG4 sounds really good and costs nothing.  Why spend all that money on different tubes when you don't gain anything from it in terms of performance?  If you like to roll just to get different flavors the 6SN7 driver stage is the one to roll for fun.

 

Just my 02 cents.

 

i guess i just like tube rolling and the fact that i already have all those rectifiers

 

whats the 3DG4 like?

post #5655 of 10223

I own a few pairs of shoes. Each serves its purpose. If I had to decide on one shoe to be the best of all shoes it would drive me nuts--let alone wreck my feet. That's why I own a few amps and a few headphones and why I don't really try to best one over the other. Just saying. :) Right Ultra- ?

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