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post #2386 of 10642
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Originally Posted by rosgr63 View Post

 

David aren't IC cables more expensive per meter than speaker cables?

 

I thought you would loose more signal quality from long IC's than long speaker cables.

 

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Originally Posted by hodgjy View Post

It's my understanding that the issue with speaker cable runs is the thickness of the cable.  The issue with IC runs is both length and shielding, which impacts thickness. 

 

The problem with IC cables is capacitance the higher capacitance will roll off the highs and the longer the cable the more capacitance

post #2387 of 10642

Glenn, that is exactly what Grover Huffman said.  He recommends long speaker cable runs.

post #2388 of 10642

I used to have long speaker runs and I used 10 gage wire to the speakers. The heavier the wire the less resistance and loss.

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I also thought IC's are more prone to EMF and interference that speaker cables.

post #2390 of 10642
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Originally Posted by rosgr63 View Post

I also thought IC's are more prone to EMF and interference that speaker cables.

They are but some of that is the quality of the shield not all ICs are created equal and just because it is

expensive doesn't mean it is better. I usually check the capacitance with a capacitor checker before

I buy. I like to know the capacitance per meter in pf

post #2391 of 10642

Finally I have read that the quality of the connectors is also critical and more so in digital IC's.

The 75ohm S/PDIF requirement of RCA and BNC connectors is the one I am referring to.

post #2392 of 10642

So, are there "better" digital cables?

post #2393 of 10642

I really don't know I don't use DACs I listen to CDs on a old studio quality Tascam CD player

and it only takes one CD at a time. Maybe some day I will get into the 20th century.

post #2394 of 10642

I found great satisfaction spinning CDs.  I still like it now.  But, once I went to an iPod holding my entire music collection feeding a DAC, I have become accustomed to the convenience of my entire library at my fingertips. 

 

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Originally Posted by 2359glenn View Post

I really don't know I don't use DACs I listen to CDs on a old studio quality Tascam CD player

and it only takes one CD at a time. Maybe some day I will get into the 20th century.

post #2395 of 10642
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Originally Posted by 2359glenn View Post

I really don't know I don't use DACs I listen to CDs on a old studio quality Tascam CD player

and it only takes one CD at a time. Maybe some day I will get into the 20th century.

 

The Cd player has a built in DAC!

You're closer to being timely than you thought!

post #2396 of 10642

I either play records or CDs one at a time as well. I tried Apple's Airplay and to my ear it didn't sound quite right on my system so I dropped it. The weakest link must have been my wireless connection. Also, when I download music from HDTracks or other high-end download sites, I burn the songs to a DVD and play it on my PS Audio Perfect Wave Transport--one disc at a time.

post #2397 of 10642

I've tried airplay from a number of devices, Apple and others, and I agree that it never sounded right.  I only use Airplay to stream WatchESPN from my iPad to my TV.

 

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Originally Posted by Clayton SF View Post

I either play records or CDs one at a time as well. I tried Apple's Airplay and to my ear it didn't sound quite right on my system so I dropped it. The weakest link must have been my wireless connection. Also, when I download music from HDTracks or other high-end download sites, I burn the songs to a DVD and play it on my PS Audio Perfect Wave Transport--one disc at a time.

post #2398 of 10642
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

Not sure which to gettongue_smile.gif Anyways, I've derailed the thread, I just will make sure not to get a warm DAC. Thanks for the help!

In my opinion Glenn's amps are darn near perfect for tone, so I would suggest seeking neutrality from your other gear so as to not upset the balance.  When it comes to source components I think neutral should always be the goal, if the designer/maker states otherwise (like claiming their DAC is "warm" for example) then that usually makes me wary.


Edited by Xcalibur255 - 3/24/13 at 4:28pm
post #2399 of 10642
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Originally Posted by 2359glenn View Post

They are but some of that is the quality of the shield not all ICs are created equal and just because it is

expensive doesn't mean it is better. I usually check the capacitance with a capacitor checker before

I buy. I like to know the capacitance per meter in pf

 

I like Signal Cable ICs for this reason, they actually state their capacitance and DC resistance for their cables when most others do not.  The pricing is also very reasonable compared to most audiophile cables.  I have only ever made a direct comparison between my cables once, between the Signal Cable and some Acoustic Research ones I had around for pre-out duties with my old receiver.  I went in with no expectations of the comaprison, and thing thing I remember best was the very noticeable difference in bass.  The bass on the Acoustic Research cable was much more loose and lazy sounding, though there were differences elsewhere too especially when it came to note separation.

 

I became a believer in IC quality after hearing it with my own ears.

post #2400 of 10642
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Originally Posted by 2359glenn View Post

I really don't know I don't use DACs I listen to CDs on a old studio quality Tascam CD player

and it only takes one CD at a time. Maybe some day I will get into the 20th century.

I use the Oppo BDP95 and play CD also one at a time. I also have a 5 disc carousel sacd Sony but I don't really use it much because the Oppo is so much better but the Sony came out when Sony first introduced sacd and it as 349.00 with 5 sacd so I picked it up and actually it still works perfectly an dis about 10 year sold well built. I still think CD sound bette computer downloads. I do miss the vinyl rig but not the work needed to keep it going .

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