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Originally Posted by Xcalibur255 

Philips Holland ECC33

That's probably a Mullard-made tube despite the label.

I am sure it is a Mullard as Philips never made any ECC33's.

As coincidence has it I am also trying an ECC33 as we speak.

Like everything else, the price of ECC33s has gone up quite a bit.  The last pair I purchased was a little less than 2 years ago and it cost $250 which I am sure is much higher than others paid a couple years before.

A lot depends on the particular type, condition, matched codes, original boxes, etc.

I would say $250 is on the  "cheap" side nowadays, unless the ebay God is asleep.

BTW how do you like them David?

I agree, $250 is cheap now.  I think $350-$400 is more likely, right?

I like them, but I think I like the ECC32s more.

You?

Right, they command high prices now.

I have not tried any of my ECC32's for a long time, to me the ECC series are very nice.

Most of the time I am very happy with my cheap tubes (less than $50) which I mostly use. 

Then why do you still buy the expensive ones?

Tube Addict!

Whew.  I am glad this had nothing to do with a silly New Year's resolution.

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Originally Posted by rosgr63 

I am sure it is a Mullard as Philips never made any ECC33's.

 

As coincidence has it I am also trying an ECC33 as we speak.

So even though it says made in Holland on it is actually British made?  I guess that makes sense since the ECC tubes are a Mullard thing apparently.  I am less versed on European tubes than American ones.

I am finding that post burn-in it is still too "in your face" for some types of music.  Not harsh, just really forward and aggressive sounding.  I never would have thought a tube could have dynamics like this.  The most interesting thing is it doesn't really sound unnatural or artificial.  The attack and decay on guitar notes was as good as holding one in your hand and hearing the real thing.  It doesn't sound like a recording, it just sounds real.  Very few tubes do this for me.

I like the ECC32 too, but for anything non-vocal I'm finding this ECC33 to be the more transparent.  The ECC32 is impressively balanced sounding tonally, which means it is somewhat dry on my headphones of course.  No major flaws to speak of, unlike the B65 which only seems to work well with certain types of music.  But, when it works it works wonderfully I must say.

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Originally Posted by Xcalibur255 

So even though it says made in Holland on it is actually British made?

Yes, they weren't always exactly forthcoming with the truth.

The ECC3x series especially.

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Originally Posted by Silent One 

 

Perhaps, you'd like to read up on the Cable Co.'s Headphone initiative and Lending Library:

 

 

http://www.thecableco.com/newsletter-detail.aspx?iid=5822

My only problem with this is you have to buy stuff from them to get your lending deposit back, but for people planning to buy from them anyway it seems like a good deal.

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Originally Posted by Oskari 

Yes, they weren't always exactly forthcoming with the truth.

So then how do we know that Holland-made Philips tube is made by Mullard in the UK?

The three to the left seems to have different construction than the Holland made.