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post #466 of 1166
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I've found another set of tips that work great.  Since I've got my old HF5's back I put the foam tips on the R-50 and they work a little better than the Atrio foams do.  Better isolation and the bass sound fuller and thicker to.  Soundstage and everything else sounds the same but the extra isolation is great.

post #467 of 1166
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Originally Posted by Zamorano View Post

how would you compare R-50 with PFE 012?

 

 

The R-50 has a brighter sound.  I have the Phonaks and have tried all 3 filter options.  I strongly prefer the grey over the green that comes with the 012.  The green does provide more bass but muffles the treble and gives you less detail in the midrange.

 

With the grey filter I'd call sound quality with the R-50 a tie.  However in terms of comfort levels the Phonak kicks the R-50's butt; definitely better at 'disappearing' into the ear.

post #468 of 1166
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An thats why I love IEM's everyone hears them differently because I have the PFE-112 and think the R-50 sounds a bit better.  Now they both have the same amount of detail and separation but the R-50's soundstage is better, its larger with better imaging, at least thats they way I hear it.  I'd say the PFE -112 are around a 9 out of 10 and the R-50 a 9.3, close but imo the R-50 are a little better with over all presentation but to each their own.

 

Also I wouldn't say the PFE kicks the R-50's but in comfort at all, the R-50 is quite comfortable and after a few mins I don't even really feel them much because they're so small and light.  They both a very comfortable to me.

post #469 of 1166
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I've been in contact with Rockit Sounds to get the other IEM's they offer for review, the R-30 is the one I really want to review but the dynamic driver sets would be a bonus.

post #470 of 1166

I guess IEM comfort levels are more subjective than most everything else.  While I usually have no problem wearing over the ear IEMs, for me the R-50's memory wire never seems to sit right.  The Phonaks (even without ear guides) aren't a problem.

post #471 of 1166
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See for me the memory wire is great and its curved perfectly to the contour of me ears, it makes the memory wire on my TF10 feel like complete crap (which it is).

post #472 of 1166
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Originally Posted by Deviltooth View Post

I guess IEM comfort levels are more subjective than most everything else.  While I usually have no problem wearing over the ear IEMs, for me the R-50's memory wire never seems to sit right.  The Phonaks (even without ear guides) aren't a problem.


My experience trying to keep the memory wire of my R-50 behind my ears, has not been a good one.  May be over time it should become an easier task to accomplish.  I am inclined to think that this should have been much easier than it has been, right?

post #473 of 1166
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I would think so, mine are perfect.  When you put them one do you always bend and adjust the wires?  I have mine just how I like them and I put the IEM's in then just easily slide the wire over my ears. I never bend them or adjust the shape so there always at the right angle for me.

post #474 of 1166
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My experience trying to keep the memory wire of my R-50 behind my ears, has not been a good one.  May be over time it should become an easier task to accomplish.  I am inclined to think that this should have been much easier than it has been, right?


It would be nice if it was.  I don't like the cord that comes with the R-50 and the memory wire is obviously a bad idea.  Ear guides like Phonak or Soundmagic provide would be a better choice.

post #475 of 1166
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I don't like the ear guides, the ones with my GR07 just feel weird and cumbersome and don't give as good a fit as the memory wire.  Now thats the R-50's memory wire the wire on the TF10 isn't good at all but I can make it work to where they fit good and don't hurt my ears but its still crappy memory wire.

post #476 of 1166
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I've tried every set of tips I have that fit the R-50 and all of them fit and sound better than the stock ones do.  The best are any foam tip, Sony Hybrids (some say they don't fit on the R-50 but mine fit fine) and the Ety triple flange tips.  So just try all different kinds tell you find one that works because the stock ones really aren't great, not horrible but you can find better.

post #477 of 1166

Just got my R50's today, swapped them for my eph 100's with a fellow head-fier. At first was a bit dissappointed with the sound and the complete lack of bass and excessively bright treble. But luckily my brother's got a pair vsonic gr06's and loads of tips :). So found a pair that fits and now they sound much fuller now. Will see how they keep up with my pfe 122's with black filters.

post #478 of 1166
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I'll be reviewing the other IEM's in the Rockit Sounds lineup (R-10, R-11, R-20, R-30), I hope to have them in a week and the reviews about a week later.

post #479 of 1166
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Originally Posted by esuhgb View Post

Just got my R50's today, swapped them for my eph 100's with a fellow head-fier. At first was a bit dissappointed with the sound and the complete lack of bass and excessively bright treble. But luckily my brother's got a pair vsonic gr06's and loads of tips :). So found a pair that fits and now they sound much fuller now. Will see how they keep up with my pfe 122's with black filters.


Beware of the following reality:

 

When you come from IEMs that have a fuller sound or a bigger sound room than the R-50, you feel like the sound of the R-50 is underdeveloped.  It is like driving a four wheel drive vehicle with a 4.0 liter engine and switching to a smaller car with a 1.6 liter engine.  At first there is the feeling that the smaller car has a weak engine.  After some time driving it, then the driver gets used to the smaller engine power and realizes that it is more than enough to make the smaller car accelerate quickly and develop good speed.  That happens to me all the time when using a bass heavy IEM that has a bigger sound room and switching to the R-50.  The sound is really disappointing right after switching IEMs.  It stays like that for about one hour.  After then, my ears get used to it and the high quality of the R-50's sound is felt and greatly enjoyed.

post #480 of 1166
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The EPH-100 has more bass than the R-50 but the R-50 has much better sound room/soundstage.  They have a bit more width and depth and a better portrayal of height that I don't really hear on the Yamaha.

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