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post #1861 of 3175
2/8/13 at 9:32pm
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He's wrecked it 3 times. rolleyes.gif At least he's not like most and takes it out and enjoys it. Stupid me, I had a chance to purchase one over 2 years ago, but the $3M price made me flinch. I'm still kicking myself, because now it's worth closer to 6.

However, there is a small hope. The F1 GTRs are being converted for street use now, they're former racers getting refreshed by McLaren (sound matting, carpet, A/C, etc.). They'll cost less because they have a lot of miles on them, but since they're so well taken care of, and definitely broken-in, they may actually be better drivers. Estimated pricing is at $3-4M, a relative bargain.
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post #1862 of 3175
2/8/13 at 11:07pm
I applaud him for driving it - although unless you are Lewis Hamilton (or Segio Perez), I don't know if driving an F1 on wet & narrow English roads is the smartest move.
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post #1863 of 3175
2/9/13 at 5:08pm
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Look under this 246 GT. It's unrestored and 42 y/o, I wish my undercarriage looked this good. tongue.gif



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post #1864 of 3175
2/9/13 at 10:25pm
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Interior shot.




It's the first time I've dealt with a "survivor" Ferrari, the only thing that's been done is a repaint and regular maintenance. I have all records, receipts, window stickers, books, tools, original Italian license plates, and photos from when it was delivered to the first owner. eek.gif It "only" has 195hp, but it doesn't need any more, it's perfect as it is. The shifter is amazing, very precise with tactile "clicks" when changing gears. We didn't push her hard, not really. It handled a little "darty" at first, 100% R&P steering w/ 1.5 turns from L2L, but before long it was second nature. The ride is firm but not harsh, very race inspired, "taut" is the word that comes to mind. And the music, like an angry hornet shoved down the horn of a bugle. Whoo! They don't build cars like this anymore, and it's a damned shame.
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post #1865 of 3175
2/10/13 at 12:52pm
I agree - why can't all cars sound like that? I mean the most common engines now are 4 & 6 cyl between 2 and 3 liters - they should ALL sound like a Lotus Elan or Ferrari Dino!! biggrin.gif
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post #1866 of 3175
2/10/13 at 5:59pm
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It started raining half way through the day so I didn't get to do much. A shot of the Fiat's interior.





Too bad it doesn't run, or to be more precise, it doesn't run well. It's missing like crazy and won't idle properly. Sounds like an issue with one or more of the carbs, or the fuel pump. The 365 GTC does run, but is making a popping sound from the left front wheel when turning, maybe a dried out CV joint or bad tie rod. I'll call the guys to bring the flatbed tomorrow. Ah, the joys of classic car ownership! biggrin.gif


Mecum just put up the lots for the Houston auction on Apr 4-6. You all see anything interesting?

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/consignment_list.cfm?AUCTION_ID=HA0413&consignDay=All&lottype=car

Check out this 250 LWB Cali replica. Nicely done, would look better in Rosso Corsa.
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post #1867 of 3175
2/10/13 at 6:29pm

You sir are a high roller. 

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post #1868 of 3175
2/10/13 at 7:12pm
If the Fiat starts at all, that's probably much better than the average 40 year old Fix-It-Again-Tony... tongue.gif

I would look at it as an opportunity for the boys to get some excellent experience at tuning multi-weber setups. After all, not *every* car you bring into the shop is immediately going to have the old intake ripped out and a modern EFI installed. wink.gif
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post #1869 of 3175
2/10/13 at 11:47pm
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Wouldn't hurt to change it over the EFI, it's not like it's original anyway. I just don't want to put that kind of money into it.


Here's a game, one of these 250 Calis is a replica (selling for $70k), the other is not (and is worth >$15M). Which is which?

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post #1870 of 3175
2/11/13 at 3:43am
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Wouldn't hurt to change it over the EFI, it's not like it's original anyway. I just don't want to put that kind of money into it.


Here's a game, one of these 250 Calis is a replica (selling for $70k), the other is not (and is worth >$15M). Which is which?

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Im guessing the right one is the replica? 

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post #1871 of 3175
2/11/13 at 7:04am
I also think it is the one on the right - no one would put a hard top on a replica.
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post #1872 of 3175
2/11/13 at 11:15am
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It's a removable hard top.
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post #1873 of 3175
2/11/13 at 2:09pm
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Yeah, dried out CV joint on the 365 (stupid unsealed design), luckily they saved it and then tightened/lubed all the rods and other parts of the IS assemblies (and alarming amount you could wiggle with your fingers). PSA for current/future car collectors: taking care of the powertrain is a great thing, but don't ignore the other parts of the car (especially not the suspension).

Most multi-carb setups suck. Really suck. "Hey guys, let's increase fuel availability by making the whole system 10x more of a PITA than it has to be?" "Troppo figo!" (which means "that's super cool" in Italian). The great news is, it's a rebadged Cosworth V6 in the Fiat, which was taken from some Alfa (because it says Alfa Romeo on the valve covers), the bad news is that there are 6 carbs (6!) and it's turbocharged. rolleyes.gif Well, that may be cool from some moron's point of view, but not mine. We found a manifold and EFI system that will work, in Ohio, and we're going to try that. It's actually about as cheap as rebuilding the carbs. Heh.
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post #1874 of 3175
2/11/13 at 7:51pm
Yeah - that make no sense! If you are going to do something that isn't stock (like put a completely different engine in the car), and it is intended to be driven, then at least make it perform AND be reliable. Putting a Holley double-pumper on it would have made more sense than 6 little carbs.
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post #1875 of 3175
2/11/13 at 8:02pm
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If I didn't know better, I'd say they just used whatever was already laying around. We're gonna fix it, though, and it'll cost a whole $750. biggrin.gif But, it'll have an EFI 3.0L Cosworth V6 turbo (w/ bright red Alfa valve covers), making ~350bhp. I'm just going to use this car as my crazy Frankenstein hotrod. Troppo figo!





This video makes me want a beat up RX7.

Edited by Magick Man - 2/11/13 at 8:25pm
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