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post #706 of 9498
I've been able to successfully avoid cruises - I don't think I would like it very much. Not because of the water - I love the water - but I hate being in places where I can't escape if I wanted to. Even if I'm on an island like Hawaii or Jamaica, I *could* fly out if I really wanted to. That's not so easy on a ship - although I guess on most cruises you are in a port nearly every day. Why do I need an escape pod? I don't know - doesn't make any sense to me either - and I've never actually *used* an escape path...

The other thing about cruises that bother me is that several times I've been on vacation in places where cruise ships land. Those towns are *completely* different when the cruise ship is NOT in port. When the ship arrives, it vomits out a marauding horde of bermuda short wearing locusts that sweep through the town buying t-shirts, refrigerator magnets and a Mai Tai, Rum Punch, Pina Colada or whatever local concoction is most heavily advertised. The day after the ship leaves, the town slows down, the locals come back out and the restaurants and bars actually serve good food instead of whatever can be shoveled out the fastest.
post #707 of 9498
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

More like a Gulfstream G550 or Boeing Business Jet with 10 other people who are going the same direction. When you do it like that, it's not a whole lot more expensive than 1st class tickets. I went with some other `Bama fans to the `09 BCS championship game in a Gulfstream V and we split the cost, it was a swanky as hell way to travel. We had an attendant, booze, big TV, and an in-air poker game to and from.

Okay, so that's different than my experience/understanding of "chartered" - and makes a hell of lot more sense.
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Go ahead, fire away! biggrin.gif I'm probably just going to put them up on ebay. Oh, and I did mention the cruise and that the ship was the QM2 and she made a choking sound and started singing "My Heart Will Go On" off-key. hahaha

Did you explain that that was Titanic, and not QM2, and that Titanic was White Star and not Cunard, and that there have been substantial advances in path-finding and navigation since the 1900s, and lifeboats, and that there aren't a lot of icebergs floating around Australia? Just saying. Oh, and a voyage on the QM2 is not a cruise, it's travel. As the QM2 is not a cruise ship, no matter what Carnival says. Cruises exist because of the splendor and magic of the American legal code. rolleyes.gif

And basically the summary of the sarcasm was: color me surprised that some over-hyped out-of-production product can't live up to the hype, but I'm sure that won't stop a lot of people from wanting to cut your head off for saying so.
Edited by obobskivich - 10/23/12 at 8:18pm
post #708 of 9498
Private jets are the shiz! No airport security, no ban on cell phones and free flowing booze and food. I worked for a company where the CEO had a share in a business jet. To make it look like it wasn't a complete extravagance, she would take people going to the same area with her. I had a driver come pick me up and we drove the to the charter area of the airport - and drove right up to the plane. The driver pops the trunk, our bags were put on the plane, we boarded and 5 minutes later we were headed to the runway for takeoff. Best flying experience I've ever had.
post #709 of 9498

i took first class on a passenger jet a couple years ago, upgraded my points

best experience and i never want to go back to economy 

unlimited food and no crying babies biggrin.gif

post #710 of 9498
I last flew something like 5-6 years ago, and there was an option for first-class. I thought about it, but passed - because I picked a rear-ish window seat I boarded with the first-class people, and honestly don't see the point in spending more money to get the same service (there's actually a whole body of research on the airline industry and the concept of selling the EXACT same service for double the price and how people will go along with it just fine). You get there at the same time in the same condition.

Now, chartered aircraft are another story. And that's where I think spending the extra cash could be worth it, but I'll admit that I'm not very familiar with the "time-sharing" thing on jets (the only "chartered" planes I've experienced are either straight-up privately owned/leased, or specially chartered for a single person or group (e.g. a few years ago a group I was with chartered a 737 to take us across the country, and we had the entire aircraft for ourselves)).
post #711 of 9498
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Chartering is handled in a few different ways. You can go to a company that handles it like buying tickets from a regular airline, just on a smaller scale. They setup a time, give you a price, and coordinate all the passengers who are going. Another way is to call up the charter company and tell them you want the plane to yourself and tell them when you're leaving, then they get it all setup and it and the crew are at your disposal for however long you need them (this is expensive). Then lastly, if you know someone who owns a jet, you can rent it directly from them, pay for all the costs, and hire your own crew. That saves you money, but it's not as reliable and there are a lot more hassles. What I've personally used is the first one and they've been great experiences, like Billy said. More freedom, more room, less annoyance, I could smoke my pipe, and MUCH less hassle boarding and disembarking. To me it's worth it.


I found out that the restoration guys are ~ half done with the DB6, they're finished with the engine, mechanical, and electrical systems, so pretty much what's left are the cosmetics. They're ahead of schedule, which is great by me. That's much better than the garage, which still isn't finished; some days they show up, some days they don't. It's frustrating. mad.gif I guess since they didn't get done in time for the bonus they're in no hurry to complete it. Well, I've not paid all the money yet, and if they think they can just drag their feet, they're sadly mistaken.
post #712 of 9498

the bonus originially for the garage can go to the car restorers!

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I last flew something like 5-6 years ago, and there was an option for first-class. I thought about it, but passed - because I picked a rear-ish window seat I boarded with the first-class people, and honestly don't see the point in spending more money to get the same service (there's actually a whole body of research on the airline industry and the concept of selling the EXACT same service for double the price and how people will go along with it just fine). You get there at the same time in the same condition.

I would argue that it isn't the same condition at all. The extra space and better accommodations make for much more comfortable travel, if you're in the air for more than 4 hours. In First Class/Business Elite you really can sleep as well as you would in a regular bed, have access to individual climate controls, can move around with ease, and often have better entertainment (like first run films). It is a much better service. But, is it worth paying 4-5x the price? That answer is largely relative, because $3,000 to a Fortune 500 exec is an evening's bar tab, whereas for most, that much money is a couple's entire vacation budget.

I usually do go FC/BE, but I pay for Business or Eco-Comfort, that's an AmEx upgrade perk for the Centurian card (and I think with the Platinum too). Otherwise, I'd probably just stay with the mid-level service, because I think it's a great value. More room than Economy/Coach, the same dinner as First Class (for a couple bucks more), and included wine and/or beer. Another reason is that I'm moderately claustrophobic, and after a while, economy seating makes me want to go on a murderous rampage. Looong ago, the first time I visited London, I flew transatlantic between two people who must have weighed >350lbs each. I'm not a small guy and I was literally wedged between them, 3 hours into the flight I almost had a full-on panic attack, I had to do the "place your head between your knees and breath into a bag" thing. Luckily, the crew was incredibly nice and for the remainder of the flight they let me sit in the cockpit jumpseat. That was awesome because I was allowed to wear a headset and the pilot told some... interesting (re. off-color) stories all the way to England. wink.gif



Oh hell. I was looking through the local sales listings and saw a truly bad-ass ride. cool.gif

"1997 Acura NSX, LoveFab Stage-2 twin-turbo, var. boost 6-15psi (350-680bhp), ARK independent coilover adjustable suspension (with electronic ride-height adjustment), touch screen boost/fuel management display (DVD and USB interface), 328mm Brembo disk brakes, etc. etc." the whole car has been rebuilt and upgraded from the ground up. *drool*



Sweet god almighty, I'm absolutely calling this guy. eek.gif
Edited by Magick Man - 10/29/12 at 6:30am
post #714 of 9498
i should note the last time I flew on a plane able to separate FC from Econ, Clinton was President. If I was going intercontintental, I'd probably agree with you 100%. That NSX is swanky. Have you filled the new garage yet?tongue.gif
post #715 of 9498
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The garage isn't even finished yet, but it better be finished this week if they have hopes of getting the rest of their money.

No, not even close to filled. We only have 6 vehicles, with one in the shop and another yet to arrive. The 2 attached garages have 2 slots each and 14-18 will fit in the new one, depending on size and how tightly I want to pack them in together. That's a lot of room.

Well, talked with the guy and he has the NSX, though he said "I'm getting swamped with offers"... yeah, right. rolleyes.gif Going to meet him at Pep Boys and check it out.
post #716 of 9498
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The garage isn't even finished yet, but it better be finished this week if they have hopes of getting the rest of their money.
No, not even close to filled. We only have 6 vehicles, with one in the shop and another yet to arrive. The 2 attached garages have 2 slots each and 14-18 will fit in the new one, depending on size and how tightly I want to pack them in together. That's a lot of room.
Well, talked with the guy and he has the NSX, though he said "I'm getting swamped with offers"... yeah, right. rolleyes.gif Going to meet him at Pep Boys and check it out.

I vote you go in the Rolls. tongue.gif

Has he even said how much he wants for it?
post #717 of 9498
That Nsx is sexy. I think I need to be your friend. Keep your money just let me drive the cars occasionally. ;p
post #718 of 9498
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I vote you go in the Rolls. tongue.gif

 

Ooh, dunno about that.  Maybe he should take the CTS-V.  Just to hint that he is capable of making the purchase, but not that he's moneybags or anything.  No need paying more than what the dude is willing to accept right?


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post #719 of 9498
A friend of mine had a red NSX from the early 90s. He bought his from a gearhead that had installed nitrous in it. Unfortunately, my friend was too cheap to fill the nitrous bottles, so I never got to see what it could really do. mad.gif
post #720 of 9498
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FWIW, I went in the Mini Cooper. wink.gif I agree, you don't go to that type of thing showing that you have money, it just makes the haggling more difficult. We (my mechanic friend Richard and I) showed up and the guy was really nice and not what I expected. I was expecting some young guy, but he and I were roughly the same age. The car looks every bit as good as in the pictures, with a minimum of "riceing" (decals and the like) and a very clean interior, with minimal wear and lots of tasteful carbon fiber upgrades. I'd say a 9/10 on the int and a 9.5/10 on the body. There's no way someone would think it's a 16 year old car, it's beautiful. It's also very fast. We were running it with the boost at 10psi and @7500RPM it makes 560bhp (~475whp), there's no way in h*ll I'd want to race it in the 911. There was some lag, but it wasn't terrible (that's what downshifting is for). He didn't neglect the handling and brakes either, they've been improved beyond stock, and the ride doesn't jar your teeth loose. Richard gave it a good going over and said it was clean and solid.

The engine management system is slick too, there's a small gauge pod on the dash for boost, pressure, and temp, but the real trick is the touchscreen OBD interface (it's actually a console mounted 7" Galaxy Tab). It tells you everything that's going on in real time and you can make some changes directly from the tablet, for even more control you just connect a laptop. I have an older black Macbook that I could just leave in the car, it would be perfect for that. The Galaxy also provides the GPS and controls the A/V system, which is a single-disc Alpine DVD head connected to a CD changer. Quite a bit of thought and work has gone into it.

So... it came down to price. He had $43k listed (he has over 40k worth of upgrades in it), but after I drove it back to the parking lot he said $46k. I reminded him what the ad said and he told me he had reconsidered. mad.gif That p*ssed me off, so I told him I needed to think about it and maybe I'd get back with him. So, then I drop Richard off and come back home, because it was getting cold and I was tired, and he calls me on my cell and tells me he "gave it some consideration" and $43k "would be okay". I told him I was tired and needed a nap, I'd sleep on it and call him back. Ass. rolleyes.gif
Edited by Magick Man - 10/29/12 at 11:56pm
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