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I didn't see you as much of a Corvair man, Magick, but I've always had a soft spot for them.

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Anybody go to the car auction in Nebraska, where the Chevy dealer had stashed NOS cars going back 40 years? It was this weekend, I think.
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It's a '64 Corvair Monza 900 Spyder Club Coupe (turbo w/ 4-spd). I'm going to be killed when my mechanic sees it, so I'm not telling him until it arrives. redface.gif

I was digging through what was left that was being sold today and it was the only thing that really interested me. It was only $2000, and has 28k miles on it. Oh, and it's 100% complete! Hard to go wrong there, and we've restored them from worse than this. Feast your eyes on... uhh... oh well.



I thought that may have been the purchase. For 2 grand and 28k miles it's hard to go wrong. I ran against a tuned Corsa in autoslalom many years ago and lordy did that thing have otl acceleration and grip galore. Wicked little cars.

 

In keeping with the AMX3 spirit perhaps you could turn it into one of these. Or a Yenko.:veryevil:

 

 

 

 

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Anybody go to the car auction in Nebraska, where the Chevy dealer had stashed NOS cars going back 40 years? It was this weekend, I think.

 

Yes, we were just discussing the Corvair Magick bought.

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Good show! I didn't know the name of the auction.
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Yes, we were just discussing the Corvair Magick bought.

 

So its brand new but slightly rusty? 

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I thought that may have been the purchase. For 2 grand and 28k miles it's hard to go wrong. I ran against a tuned Corsa in autoslalom many years ago and lordy did that thing have otl acceleration and grip galore. Wicked little cars.

In keeping with the AMX3 spirit perhaps you could turn it into one of these. Or a Yenko.very_evil_smiley.gif




I have a Yenko, a `66 Stinger Stg1. Got it off Mecum ~6 months ago and it's a great little driver, not powerful but a bunch of fun.


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I didn't see you as much of a Corvair man, Magick, but I've always had a soft spot for them.

Mid-engined, independent suspension, very light, what's not to like? smily_headphones1.gif
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I have a Yenko, a `66 Stinger Stg1. Got it off Mecum ~6 months ago and it's a great little driver, not powerful but a bunch of fun.


Mid-engined, independent suspension, very light, what's not to like? smily_headphones1.gif

Slick. So I guess it's down to the concept car replica then?

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I'm pretty sure that's at the GM museum in Dearborn, probably not selling it.
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I'm pretty sure that's at the GM museum in Dearborn, probably not selling it.

 

Yeah I saw it at a show at GMI about 10 thousand years ago. Make an interesting conversion project though, wouldnt it?

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The Corvair was such a cool idea - and I really think it's too bad Chevy got hammered for it. Do you think it could have had a larger influence on American car makers? Or were cubic inches already so ingrained in the American psyche that it wouldn't have mattered?

Can you imagine a world where the muscle car era didn't happen? Where smaller, air-cooled and turbocharged motors became the norm? The hot hatch craze might have been started 30 years earlier, and OPEC's oil embargo of the mid-70s might have had much less impact on the US. Perhaps the Middle East might not have become the war-torn center of terrorism and unrest. All because the Corvair became America's favorite car!! biggrin.gif
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Had no ideas what you oldies were talking about, so I google'd it, so the covair was unsafe at any speed because of it's tendency to oversteer? What about the 911? 

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It was unsafe because people didn't understand the process of driving a rear-mid-engined car, they were accustomed to 60/40 weight distribution, not 50/50 (or close to it). It was too light and required too much finesse for (most) US drivers. You need to focus on what you're doing, you can't just sling it around while fiddling with the radio or applying makeup. Many called it the "poor man's Porsche" and it was. It was the best handling car GM made in the 60s, and arguably their first true "driver's car". Right now you can find Corvair Monza Spyders and Corsas, well sorted, for ~$13k and that's one of the best classic car values out there. Get one now if you can, because in 3-4 years they're going to double in value. Mark my words. smily_headphones1.gif

I have an article coming about muscle cars billy, let's just say I'm not too thrilled with the modern iterations.
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Later independent testing showed that Nader was full of cr@p - the Corvair was no more dangeorus than many of it's contemporaries. It was a media show to push his own agendas, and the Corvair was simply the vehicle he used to sell books and get on TV.
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I remember Leno talking about it, he loves the Corvair, and he said one problem was that the front tires on a Corvair shouldn't be inflated over 20psi, but Americans didn't read the manuals and inflated them to 35 or more. So they'd bounce around on the road and never find any grip on the front. Remember, GM still sold over 1.2 million of them, so they really weren't a failure, they simply weren't as popular as the Mustang or Impala. It's a shame too, because it really could have sparked a revolution in Detroit and changed the course of US car design, in fact they didn't try to go that route again until the Fiero and that was... not their finest hour (though the Fiero GT is an underrated sports car and better than the press led people to believe).

Anyway, yeah Nadar was a windbag, sure he helped bring about seatbelts as standard equipment, but he also held back American car development by 10 years, and we just now are clawing back to parity with the Japanese and Europeans.
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