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post #4396 of 7370
Edmunds.com has definitely jumped the shark. Here's what they say about the new Infinity Q50 sedan:
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Pros
Many high-tech electronic and safety features; nicely detailed interior; excellent fuel economy from available hybrid model; muscular V6 engine; roomy trunk.

Cons
No option to get a frugal four-cylinder engine; subpar handling on non-Sport models fitted with factory tires.

Excuse me? Since when is NOT having the option of a crappy little engine in a $40,000 car a CON?? rolleyes.gif

I have no idea if the Q50 is worth a d@mn, but that comment from Edmunds is ridiculous.
post #4397 of 7370
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Originally Posted by VortexBlast View Post

If it's distinctly noble, could it possibly be the Noble M600? If so, I wonder how did they manage to pass US laws? That car doesn't have ABS, TC, Stability Control and even Airbags. It's the closest car to a modern day F40 and since you really like analogue supercars the M600 is the only car that comes in my mind.

The one today had ABS, TC, and airbags (no stability control). Officially it puts out 450, 550, and 600bhp, unofficially it makes well north of 700 in the top setting, but that "mustn't be used on public roads". Yeah right, buddy. rolleyes.gif Drives a lot like a Falcon F7, more so than any other supercar, the F40 is much more nervous and unforgiving (but more exciting). The skinny is, you can buy the full road-going version, replete with all the safety stuff and electronic doodads, and it's DOT approved and meets EPA stuff. OR, you can buy a normal chassis (that weighs 200kg less), have it shipped from the UK, then buy the drivetrain and have it put in by the same folks who build the Ariel Atom for North America. The latter gives you the exact same car they're selling in Euroland, and although it's only supposed to be used on a track, since it's a US-integrated "kit" many states will let you register it as such. You can also pick and choose which safety bobbins you want for your kit, like I'd want driver and passenger front airbags, TC (that can be switched off), and ABS (can also be disabled). It'll do 0-60 in 2.9s, 100 in 2.5s more, and the 1/4 mi in 10.5s. The new system blips the throttle on downshifts, like the new Stingray, and can disable half its cylinders in Normal mode to net you up to 22MPG in mixed driving.

Some club guy I didn't know was there, I think he was likely the youngest of all of us, and he asked the company person if we could "get one with paddles". We all turned and stared at him, turns out he can't drive a manual. The stick is the whole point! If you want (or need) paddles, buy a Ferrari and quit wasting our time.


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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post




Some club guy I didn't know was there, I think he was likely the youngest of all of us, and he asked the company person if we could "get one with paddles". We all turned and stared at him, turns out he can't drive a manual. The stick is the whole point! If you want (or need) paddles, buy a Ferrari and quit wasting our time.

 

Sigh thats gonna be my future if I ever get rich...... my future looks bleak :(

post #4399 of 7370

It looks bleak right now.

post #4400 of 7370
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Originally Posted by wink View Post
 

It looks bleak right now.

 

True That

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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


The one today had ABS, TC, and airbags (no stability control). Officially it puts out 450, 550, and 600bhp, unofficially it makes well north of 700 in the top setting, but that "mustn't be used on public roads". Yeah right, buddy. rolleyes.gif Drives a lot like a Falcon F7, more so than any other supercar, the F40 is much more nervous and unforgiving (but more exciting). The skinny is, you can buy the full road-going version, replete with all the safety stuff and electronic doodads, and it's DOT approved and meets EPA stuff. OR, you can buy a normal chassis (that weighs 200kg less), have it shipped from the UK, then buy the drivetrain and have it put in by the same folks who build the Ariel Atom for North America. The latter gives you the exact same car they're selling in Euroland, and although it's only supposed to be used on a track, since it's a US-integrated "kit" many states will let you register it as such. You can also pick and choose which safety bobbins you want for your kit, like I'd want driver and passenger front airbags, TC (that can be switched off), and ABS (can also be disabled). It'll do 0-60 in 2.9s, 100 in 2.5s more, and the 1/4 mi in 10.5s. The new system blips the throttle on downshifts, like the new Stingray, and can disable half its cylinders in Normal mode to net you up to 22MPG in mixed driving.

Some club guy I didn't know was there, I think he was likely the youngest of all of us, and he asked the company person if we could "get one with paddles". We all turned and stared at him, turns out he can't drive a manual. The stick is the whole point! If you want (or need) paddles, buy a Ferrari and quit wasting our time.


 

 

In Bad Luck BRG no less.:) An interesting vehicle but something about the styling leaves me a little cold. there's something out of proportion there that just does not sit right with me.

 

Now you missed a huge opportunity there to branch out into "Supercars for Dweebs Inc"  We'll take your half million dollar land missile and add in all the geegaws you need to make it driveable for you. Paddle shifters, collision avoidance sensors, automatic parallel parking, and of course out patented Givenchy designed memory metal platinum plated curb feelers.

post #4402 of 7370
That thing oozes testosterone from every gap in its body Magick, easily the most muscular car in your collection. Forget the Italians, this British Bulldog is the baddest of them all.
post #4403 of 7370
I think the main issue with the style is the color. It makes it look like a Hot Wheels toy car. I'm also not crazy about the sculpted line in the body panel that goes around the rear wheels.

HOWEVER - those are just nit-piks - I applaud them for building a more pure automobile instead of some sort of robotic transportation device that will argue with you at every corner.
post #4404 of 7370

The M600 is a whole lot more svelte than Noble's previous offerings, but it still looks just a little unfinished.

post #4405 of 7370
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

I think the main issue with the style is the color. It makes it look like a Hot Wheels toy car. I'm also not crazy about the sculpted line in the body panel that goes around the rear wheels.

HOWEVER - those are just nit-piks - I applaud them for building a more pure automobile instead of some sort of robotic transportation device that will argue with you at every corner.


Really? It's different in person, with metal flake and the color shifts several shades in the light, looking almost black at night and near emerald in direct sunlight. I'm getting to be pretty knowledgeable about expensive paint jobs, and that one is easily $15k+. The whole car is much more striking in person, not "beautiful" (like a Fezza) or even handsome (like a Lambo), but striking. The issue with the car is that it wasn't set up well for a track, so it had a fair amount of body roll... and one of the first things the representative said was, "this is the spiritual successor to the Ferrari F40". This sets the bar extremely high and creates a huge amount of expectation. The other problem was with his assistant, she had red hair and was wearing a tight body suit that sort of looked like driver's coveralls, and was quite attractive (her boobs were nearly falling out too). However, in this area, almost none of these guys can shell out 400 grand without showing their wife what they're wanting to buy, and they're quite conservative. So, most of them had brought their wives... You see the problem here? Half the guys left before the full demo was over. Also, he was kind of obnoxious, saying that none of us had ever driven a car like the M600 before. While it's a unique experience and a nice car, I've driven faster and more capable vehicles before it. The Carrera GT I'd driven there would eat it alive on a circuit, if not a flat-out drag race (it is very fast).

I've gone through the cool off period now and I'm not sure I want it. I mean, I want it, but I'm not sure it's worth 400k. Resources aren't unlimited and that's cash that can go to other buys and projects, and frankly it isn't better than its American "cousin", the aforementioned Falcon F7, while being 150k more pricey. I think I'll wait until they start to filter through to the used market at a lower price.
post #4406 of 7370
That wasn't very Noble now was it :-P
post #4407 of 7370

He's a pagaini, what did you expect?

post #4408 of 7370
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


Really? It's different in person, with metal flake and the color shifts several shades in the light, looking almost black at night and near emerald in direct sunlight. I'm getting to be pretty knowledgeable about expensive paint jobs, and that one is easily $15k+. The whole car is much more striking in person, not "beautiful" (like a Fezza) or even handsome (like a Lambo), but striking. The issue with the car is that it wasn't set up well for a track, so it had a fair amount of body roll... and one of the first things the representative said was, "this is the spiritual successor to the Ferrari F40". This sets the bar extremely high and creates a huge amount of expectation. The other problem was with his assistant, she had red hair and was wearing a tight body suit that sort of looked like driver's coveralls, and was quite attractive (her boobs were nearly falling out too). However, in this area, almost none of these guys can shell out 400 grand without showing their wife what they're wanting to buy, and they're quite conservative. So, most of them had brought their wives... You see the problem here? Half the guys left before the full demo was over. Also, he was kind of obnoxious, saying that none of us had ever driven a car like the M600 before. While it's a unique experience and a nice car, I've driven faster and more capable vehicles before it. The Carrera GT I'd driven there would eat it alive on a circuit, if not a flat-out drag race (it is very fast).

I've gone through the cool off period now and I'm not sure I want it. I mean, I want it, but I'm not sure it's worth 400k. Resources aren't unlimited and that's cash that can go to other buys and projects, and frankly it isn't better than its American "cousin", the aforementioned Falcon F7, while being 150k more pricey. I think I'll wait until they start to filter through to the used market at a lower price.

 

You would think that at that end of the spectrum they would have a handle on the target market. Perhaps in England it is targeted as a first time supercar impulse buy:D

 

For some reason it brings to mind the Stewart Racing documentary where Jackie is patiently trying to explain to his idiot son that getting hold of the potential financiers on a Friday is well nigh impossible as they are all gone off to cottages or the continent for the weekend.

post #4409 of 7370
lol - I didn't say the paint job wasn't expensive - I said I didn't like it... tongue.gif

Metal flake green was fairly common Hot Wheels color since the 70s...

post #4410 of 7370
Thread Starter 
Yeah, yeah, what... EVER! You can't be my friend no more! tongue.gif


Minion find of the month. My, my, sweetheart, did someone forget you? Spyker C8 Turbo prototype in California, note the manufacturer test driver plates still on it. So sexy, with a Cosworth designed and built V8 twin-turbo in the back. Oh yeah... Happy Yes emoticon - happy-yes-smiley-emoticon.gif



Edited by Magick Man - 9/14/13 at 11:29am
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