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I answered like Jeremy the first time, and got Jeremy, then I answered as myself and got... Jeremy. biggrin.gif I think I only answered 2 questions differently the 2nd time, like the one about who's to blame for why I'm late (my alarm clock, of course, because I don't use one).

Lessee... We got in the Stage 3 TT kit for the Audi R8 V10 for beta test... which isn't more powerful than the old Stage 2, just cleaner, cooler, lighter, and more configurable. It's a system that can be completely shut off with a bypass valve setup, and completely variable output from 650-1000 bhp. It isn't a "bolt-on" kit like the last, however. It has new; pistons, crank, valves, valve covers (in CF), twin clutch, some tranny parts, fuel pumps, rear differential, suspension, brakes, and all CF plumbing with larger intercoolers than before, larger oil sump, and other crap that I can't remember right now. It's a complete rebuild of the car, and it costs... ready for it?... $85k, or 120 if you want the Carbon-Ceramic-Kevlar brakes (which are highly recommended, and for good reason). So, they're taking my R8 apart, again. Oh, the new software, because of course it has new software , changes the way the AWD works, sending power to the front wheels only when it's absolutely needed (or when launch control is engaged), and then only a max of 25%. Plus it makes the car E85 flex-fuel compatible and lowers emissions over stock by up to 40%. In their testing, there's no discernable lag up to 750hp. You do get a 12mo/10k mile warranty too, unless you mess with the setup, then all bets are off.
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Magick, I'm liking your new profile photo!

It's TMAC Superhero September, so I'm going to run Clarkson as an avatar for a few days. I figure he's every bit as heroic as Chuck Norris. biggrin.gif
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OK - so you made me curious - that's $85K in parts - what would a decent tuner charge for the labor for all that? It seems like that has to be hundreds of hours in shop labor, no?
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I answered like Jeremy the first time, and got Jeremy, then I answered as myself and got... Jeremy. biggrin.gif I think I only answered 2 questions differently the 2nd time, like the one about who's to blame for why I'm late (my alarm clock, of course, because I don't use one).

Lessee... We got in the Stage 3 TT kit for the Audi R8 V10 for beta test... which isn't more powerful than the old Stage 2, just cleaner, cooler, lighter, and more configurable. It's a system that can be completely shut off with a bypass valve setup, and completely variable output from 650-1000 bhp. It isn't a "bolt-on" kit like the last, however. It has new; pistons, crank, valves, valve covers (in CF), twin clutch, some tranny parts, fuel pumps, rear differential, suspension, brakes, and all CF plumbing with larger intercoolers than before, larger oil sump, and other crap that I can't remember right now. It's a complete rebuild of the car, and it costs... ready for it?... $85k, or 120 if you want the Carbon-Ceramic-Kevlar brakes (which are highly recommended, and for good reason). So, they're taking my R8 apart, again. Oh, the new software, because of course it has new software , changes the way the AWD works, sending power to the front wheels only when it's absolutely needed (or when launch control is engaged), and then only a max of 25%. Plus it makes the car E85 flex-fuel compatible and lowers emissions over stock by up to 40%. In their testing, there's no discernable lag up to 750hp. You do get a 12mo/10k mile warranty too, unless you mess with the setup, then all bets are off.
It's TMAC Superhero September, so I'm going to run Clarkson as an avatar for a few days. I figure he's every bit as heroic as Chuck Norris. biggrin.gif


Ok so you get to keep the "stock" RATE body and block and everything else gets rebuilt? From the peon's perspective here that seems a little drastic. Is Audi paying you for this?

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Ok so you get to keep the "stock" RATE body and block and everything else gets rebuilt? From the peon's perspective here that seems a little drastic. Is Audi paying you for this?

Sorry, this is from Heffner Perf, it's a build to determine manhours required and potential issues. We'd already done the "standard" twin-turbo upgrade, but this one is more comprehensive and involves more than just fitting a pair of turbos and some ductwork. The fit and finish are every bit as professional as what you'd find from a major manufacturer, plus I like being able to adjust it to a minimal setting, or even all the way off, when just puttering around town.
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OK - so you made me curious - that's $85K in parts - what would a decent tuner charge for the labor for all that? It seems like that has to be hundreds of hours in shop labor, no?

Actually, that includes labor. So it's not quite as bad as you think. However, no one ever wants to stop there and we usually do a considerable amount of "value adding", which really makes it worthwhile for us.
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Sorry, this is from Heffner Perf, it's a build to determine manhours required and potential issues. We'd already done the "standard" twin-turbo upgrade, but this one is more comprehensive and involves more than just fitting a pair of turbos and some ductwork. The fit and finish are every bit as professional as what you'd find from a major manufacturer, plus I like being able to adjust it to a minimal setting, or even all the way off, when just puttering around town.
Actually, that includes labor. So it's not quite as bad as you think. However, no one ever wants to stop there and we usually do a considerable amount of "value adding", which really makes it worthwhile for us.


So you are doing RD for Heffner on this one?

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So you are doing RD for Heffner on this one?

In a manner of speaking, kinda like checking it out to get more information about it and seeing what's involved, as a training aid (and getting the parts at their cost to upgrade my car at the same time).
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In a manner of speaking, kinda like checking it out to get more information about it and seeing what's involved, as a training aid (and getting the parts at their cost to upgrade my car at the same time).


That makes sense. Do you plan on doing customer cars out of your shop or is this a one off for your personal use only?

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Well, Jay Leno is now the first ever person outside McLaren to drive the McLaren P1.

 

 

It might not be a looker to some though I find it particularly beautiful (well beauty is in the eye of the beholder) but it sure does make Jay Leno smile.

But then in terms of beauty, I can't overlook the 918. For me it's the most beautiful hypercar and also top mounted exhaust. You can't get more awesome than that.


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That makes sense. Do you plan on doing customer cars out of your shop or is this a one off for your personal use only?

We have been for a while now, I mentioned it but it's been over 6 months ago, 4 customer cars (an R8, 2 Gallardos, and a 458) and 3 of my own. The old kits only took a couple days, however, and this is much more involved.


I'm sure the P1 is fast as all Hades, I simply don't believe it's what it should be (and I hate the look). There's no F1 successor without a V12 and center-seating, to me it's a pimped-out and hybridized 12C.
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Have you seen the trailers for "Ender's Game"?

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Gah, I hate trailers that give away the ending! eek.gif
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Modern movies are completely incapable of having true suspense. The marketing dweebs give it all away in the advertising. Movies today are like the Westerns of yesterday. The good guy always wins, and you know who the good guy is before you ever set foot in the theater. The only difference is that now the movies have a bajillion dollars in CGI.
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We have been for a while now, I mentioned it but it's been over 6 months ago, 4 customer cars (an R8, 2 Gallardos, and a 458) and 3 of my own. The old kits only took a couple days, however, and this is much more involved.


I'm sure the P1 is fast as all Hades, I simply don't believe it's what it should be (and I hate the look). There's no F1 successor without a V12 and center-seating, to me it's a pimped-out and hybridized 12C.


I guess I missed that part of the movie. It's all falling into place now. Ever thought of popping a 13B into an Opel GT just for giggles?wink.gif

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Gah, I hate trailers that give away the ending! eek.gif


I think it was ruined for me when Card did the rewrite so that the expositon would not confuse those who had not read the book, or apparently cannot follow a timeline. I am not expecting much and particularly so after grimacing through the Johnny Mnemonic remake labelled as Elysium. He should have done the District 9 sequel. Oh Well.....................

 

This is a dark year for sci fi on film.

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3D was the worst thing to have ever been done to movie making - even worse than CGI. *Good* movies are no longer made - now all movies are simply "visually stimulating".
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