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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post


The California "safe handgun list" is our lawmakers crowning achievement:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=31001-32000&file=31900-31910
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=31001-32000&file=32000-32030

Back to cars:
I don't understand how the big auction houses can just look the other way and collect their fee when something as blatantly fraudulent as an odometer rollback has occurred. I'm all for caveat emptor, but I think there needs to be a limit when your ability to inspect the goods is restricted AND the vehicle is advertised to be something it is not.


Love the term Curio there. Who get's to define that?

 

When our last round of federal nonesense was put into effect there was an issue with the police force of a rather large city who found themselves unable to purchase ammunition as they had thought they were exempted from the new controls. They had to appeal to private citizens (very quietly) to obtain enough handgun ammunition to qualify their officers.

 

 

You would think that perhaps large auction houses would have an escrow period where the car could be gone over to determine if anything was amiss. VAS has apparently eluded the auction worldwink_face.gif

post #4217 of 9498
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As long as one of those secrets is NOT that it was once owned by Eric Clapton eek.gif

That would be something, wouldn't it? No, nothing like that. Though, this car this car has an upgraded fuel system, no catalytic converters (uh oh) or smog hardware, and 4cm wheel spacers to widen its track. Its also dyno tuned. Likely there are changes to the internals too, but what we do know is it makes more to the wheels than Ferrari claims it should make at the crank. 410 whp compared to 340 bhp, and it is awesome to drive. It really goes like stink and handles like a dream, after putting on some new sticky Michelins. I ran it all over the countryside today, running the gears up and down, and the sound is orgasmic. eek.gif At one point I'm thinking, "this is one of the best cars I've ever driven". It's a real gem, and getting ripped on it doesn't even bother me as much anymore.

That's some mentally retarded BS, right there. How often do they update that, every 10 years? rolleyes.gif
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Back to cars:
I don't understand how the big auction houses can just look the other way and collect their fee when something as blatantly fraudulent as an odometer rollback has occurred. I'm all for caveat emptor, but I think there needs to be a limit when your ability to inspect the goods is restricted AND the vehicle is advertised to be something it is not.

States ignore mileage statements on cars that are more than 10 years old, you essentially have no leverage unless you can prove someone was deliberately trying to dupe you, and that's nearly impossible. Essentially, to cover their own butts, they present them with a form for them to sign claiming that the mileage is correct to the best of their knowledge, then they do an "18 point inspection" and drive it down the road a ways, but that's it. We found out by looking at the service tickets and seeing that at one point it was serviced at 35k miles, then it was serviced a couple years later and it had 16k... so, yeah. We roll back, or replace, the odometers on the cars we fully restomod, like that `69 Boss Mustang we sold (and then bought back), but it was stripped down to the frame and rebuilt from scratch. So it was essentially a new car again.
post #4218 of 9498
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Originally Posted by Hutnicks View Post


Love the term Curio there. Who get's to define that?

When our last round of federal nonesense was put into effect there was an issue with the police force of a rather large city who found themselves unable to purchase ammunition as they had thought they were exempted from the new controls. They had to appeal to private citizens (very quietly) to obtain enough handgun ammunition to qualify their officers.


You would think that perhaps large auction houses would have an escrow period where the car could be gone over to determine if anything was amiss. VAS has apparently eluded the auction world:wink_face:

That's why owning a reloader is invaluable. biggrin.gif I recycle my brass. Not to sound like a cheapskate, but .357SIG ammo is expensive, and becoming a little hard to come by.
post #4219 of 9498
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That's why owning a reloader is invaluable. biggrin.gif I recycle my brass. Not to sound like a cheapskate, but .357SIG ammo is expensive, and becoming a little hard to come by.


No workaround for that, like using 7.62 cases reformed for .44 automag ?

 

Here's one for you now that I have reminded myself. In it's heyday Automag actually produced a pistol called the .45 Hardballer. It was intended as a contender in IPSC competition and was a beautiful work of art. Anyone ever seen it in the metal?

post #4220 of 9498
Curio & Relic (C&R) is actually a term defined by the US Feds: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/curios-relics.html#definition
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Firearm curios or relics include firearms which have special value to collectors because they possess some qualities not ordinarily associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of the following categories:
  1. Have been manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof; or
  2. Be certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; or
  3. Derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or from the fact of their association with some historical figure, period, or event.

Of course, as with all things ATF (& IRS), you are guilty until proven innocent - so if you plan on pushing the limits of the definition, then you should also plan on having all your firearms seized and needing to pay lawyers a ton of money to prove you are right so you can force the ATF to give them back.

CA DOJ actually keeps the handgun list updated - because - if a mfr doesn't renew their certification, the gun is dropped off the list. They keep adding new rules to get certified, so it's harder to get new guns put on the list. I'm, pretty sure the plan is for the list to continually get shorter...
post #4221 of 9498
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


That would be something, wouldn't it? No, nothing like that. Though, this car this car has an upgraded fuel system, no catalytic converters (uh oh) or smog hardware, and 4cm wheel spacers to widen its track. Its also dyno tuned. Likely there are changes to the internals too, but what we do know is it makes more to the wheels than Ferrari claims it should make at the crank. 410 whp compared to 340 bhp, and it is awesome to drive. It really goes like stink and handles like a dream, after putting on some new sticky Michelins. I ran it all over the countryside today, running the gears up and down, and the sound is orgasmic. eek.gif At one point I'm thinking, "this is one of the best cars I've ever driven". It's a real gem, and getting ripped on it doesn't even bother me as much anymore.

 

How is it in comparison to the Ersatz GTO?

post #4222 of 9498
Here's a question I have always been meaning to ask you...

Is it harder or easier to drive a car with a tall AND gated shifter? I've driven vehicles with tall gear shifts, but not one that is gated.

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Originally Posted by Hutnicks View Post

How is it in comparison to the Ersatz GTO?

The GTO isn't quite as sharp and responsive, but it doesn't have brand new tires either. Power is fairly similar, though the BB doesn't have any lag, of course. With new rubber they'd be very similar, I'd bet.
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Here's a question I have always been meaning to ask you...

Is it harder or easier to drive a car with a tall AND gated shifter? I've driven vehicles with tall gear shifts, but not one that is gated.


I like tall shifters, but not really a big fan of gated. They have a cool mechanical "clack", but in practice they aren't as smooth because sometimes you hit the gates themselves and they slow down shift times. So you're spending at least a little bit of your attention on that, rather than driving. I revisited my wife's 360 (no gates) and it's just a fun, playful thing. This is really the last purely analog RMR Ferrari, and now that I can drive well enough, I fully appreciate the little sucker. It's going WAY up on my Driver's Car list. It's like a high-strung icepick with wheels. No, it's engine's not very powerful, but it's enough to wring out what the chassis can do and make you work for it. What a great car.
post #4224 of 9498
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billy, buy this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-Austin-Healey-Sprite-MKII-w-1275cc-5-speed-gearbox-british-convertable-/300950515638#ht_1311wt_1168

It's not too far away, shipping would be inexpensive. Awesome Brit styling with Japanese mechanicals and new electrics. This is what you were asking for earlier in a weekend car that's fun and cheap. smily_headphones1.gif
post #4225 of 9498
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


The GTO isn't quite as sharp and responsive, but it doesn't have brand new tires either. Power is fairly similar, though the BB doesn't have any lag, of course. With new rubber they'd be very similar, I'd bet.
 

 

Aha I see a weekend of comparison driving in your future. I was always surprised the bb never garnered much of a following. For some I suppose it was the beginning of the lack of style era that culminated with the Testarossa. It somehow managed to loose some of the grace and swoop of the 308 body style. That said it made one hell of a pretty race carbiggrin.gif

post #4226 of 9498
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

billy, buy this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-Austin-Healey-Sprite-MKII-w-1275cc-5-speed-gearbox-british-convertable-/300950515638#ht_1311wt_1168

It's not too far away, shipping would be inexpensive. Awesome Brit styling with Japanese mechanicals and new electrics. This is what you were asking for earlier in a weekend car that's fun and cheap. smily_headphones1.gif

Hmm - something about that car bothers me. I don't think I'm enough of a mechanic to own that car. I think it's kind of funny that a guy in Washington has a car without a top or windshield wipers. I'm guessing he can drive that car about 10 days a year...

On a similar, but completely different vein - I would give my left nut to drive one of these every day...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1964-Austin-Healey-3000-Mk-3-BJ8-excellent-restored-condition-/221265833186?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item338478ace2#ht_21287wt_1165
Edited by billybob_jcv - 8/29/13 at 8:27pm
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I've seen this before but it amuses me still. Captioned as "Best car security in America"....

 

post #4228 of 9498
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post


Hmm - something about that car bothers me. I don't think I'm enough of a mechanic to own that car. I think it's kind of funny that a guy in Washington has a car without a top or windshield wipers. I'm guessing he can drive that car about 10 days a year...

On a similar, but completely different vein - I would give my left nut to drive one of these every day...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1964-Austin-Healey-3000-Mk-3-BJ8-excellent-restored-condition-/221265833186?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item338478ace2#ht_21287wt_1165

Either that or he's simply English wink_face.gif

 

I would not have pegged you for an anglopainmachine afficionado confused_face_2.gif

post #4229 of 9498
Yup - I've always had a thang for British roadsters - I have wanted one since I was 15. Austin-Healey 3000, Jag XK120/140/150 and XKE, Lotus Elan, Jensen-Healey, MGA, TR6, Morgan 4/4, Sunbeam Tiger - I love all of them! And yeah, I know that if I actually owned one I would regret it - but I don't care!

To be honest, it's not just the British roadsters - the Italian roadsters are also on my list - and I wouldn't kick a Porsche 550 Spyder out of my garage either! biggrin.gif

I like a flowing, artistic body and no roof!
post #4230 of 9498
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Originally Posted by Hutnicks View Post

Aha I see a weekend of comparison driving in your future. I was always surprised the bb never garnered much of a following. For some I suppose it was the beginning of the lack of style era that culminated with the Testarossa. It somehow managed to loose some of the grace and swoop of the 308 body style. That said it made one hell of a pretty race car:D

The 512 BBi really suits me more, I love that V12. It makes a great noise and the power is more linear and not as abrupt.
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

Hmm - something about that car bothers me. I don't think I'm enough of a mechanic to own that car. I think it's kind of funny that a guy in Washington has a car without a top or windshield wipers. I'm guessing he can drive that car about 10 days a year...

On a similar, but completely different vein - I would give my left nut to drive one of these every day...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1964-Austin-Healey-3000-Mk-3-BJ8-excellent-restored-condition-/221265833186?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item338478ace2#ht_21287wt_1165

It's just a simple little Healey, not much really can go wrong with it. wink.gif I'd imagine the people up there just drive them the way they're driven in the UK, with a slicker, goggles, and galoshes. When you live with "weather" that long, you don't actually see it as an obstacle. That would be a perfect car in So Cal for the weekends.
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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

I've seen this before but it amuses me still. Captioned as "Best car security in America"....



True that, youngsters have no idea what to do with it.
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