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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

You know, I realize I was thinking about this from the perspective of a family man, which billybob is...yet his question was what we would want. And that changes my pick instantly.....I would instead go for this....



Folding hard top Miata, and if it was to be the only vehicle, then I'd take the 6 speed auto with paddle shifters. (I know Magick just died a little inside reading that last bit....lol)

Right-O - this was intended to be an exercise for discussion, not a selection for *me* - I wanted to see if intending to actually live with a car for a long time would change any of your selections. So - it's not about *me* - it's about *you*!!
post #4187 of 9498

My personal pick is either an Alfa sedan or a Mercedes E Class for the daily grind.

 

Fits the family, drive well and the Alfa is a private portable orchestra.
 

post #4188 of 9498

Because I'm entirely insane, I'd go with a well-restored Honda microcar from the 70s. Y'know, just because I like to torture myself.

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Because I'm entirely insane, I'd go with a well-restored Honda microcar from the 70s. Y'know, just because I like to torture myself.


Insanity would be one of these. Sport car and economy all in onebiggrin.gif

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMR_Tg500

post #4190 of 9498
Remember: You are going to put 150K+ *additional* miles on the car. So, if the car already has 100K miles, then it needs to last until it has at least 250K miles on the odometer... wink.gif
post #4191 of 9498
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Insanity would be one of these. Sport car and economy all in onebiggrin.gif

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMR_Tg500

This photo from the Wikipedia page just made my day. It's from a run at the Nurburgring done by FMR.

 

post #4192 of 9498
Thread Starter 
Messerschmitt racing, looks like fun! Those are hard to come by, since they're actively raced, decent ones go for a pretty penny.


For Hutnicks:



AppleMarkAppleMark


Drove it through the mountains today, someone put a whole lot of work into this. It drives like it's new and feels quite special. Unless someone goes poking on the body, it would be really hard for them to tell that it's a fake. Except it's a radio delete, which is correct, but there are speakers still in the doors (oops), and the body is all fiberglass. Whatever, I really like it, the A/C even works, and it's a damned sight better than the one in the F40, too.



Oh! We're supposed to choose a car for ourselves? Okay. Umm, 150k miles and as much of those other things too? A new model (991) Carrera S. It's surprisingly practical and comfortable for what it is (It has a lot of storage space for a sports car), economy isn't completely awful, and of course the performance and styling are top notch. Second pick would be an NSX, third a McLaren MP4-12C spider. I'd swap those around, but I'm not so sure about the MP4's longevity yet, and a Honda is a Honda, tough as nails and almost impossible to kill.
post #4193 of 9498
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Oh! We're supposed to choose a car for ourselves? Okay. Umm, 150k miles and as much of those other things too? A new model (991) Carrera S. It's surprisingly practical and comfortable for what it is (It has a lot of storage space for a sports car), economy isn't completely awful, and of course the performance and styling are top notch. Second pick would be an NSX, third a McLaren MP4-12C spider. I'd swap those around, but I'm not so sure about the MP4's longevity yet, and a Honda is a Honda, tough as nails and almost impossible to kill.

Hi5 NSX tongue.gif

post #4194 of 9498
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

Messerschmitt racing, looks like fun! Those are hard to come by, since they're actively raced, decent ones go for a pretty penny.


For Hutnicks:



AppleMarkAppleMark


Drove it through the mountains today, someone put a whole lot of work into this. It drives like it's new and feels quite special. Unless someone goes poking on the body, it would be really hard for them to tell that it's a fake. Except it's a radio delete, which is correct, but there are speakers still in the doors (oops), and the body is all fiberglass. Whatever, I really like it, the A/C even works, and it's a damned sight better than the one in the F40, too.



Oh! We're supposed to choose a car for ourselves? Okay. Umm, 150k miles and as much of those other things too? A new model (991) Carrera S. It's surprisingly practical and comfortable for what it is (It has a lot of storage space for a sports car), economy isn't completely awful, and of course the performance and styling are top notch. Second pick would be an NSX, third a McLaren MP4-12C spider. I'd swap those around, but I'm not so sure about the MP4's longevity yet, and a Honda is a Honda, tough as nails and almost impossible to kill.


Hooo Ya! That is one lil Sexy Beast (in the English Film meaning of the phrase). Odd that the whole body is glass. The early 308's were only glass on the bottom of the clamshell were they not? Is this a complete rebody rather than alteration of the 308 skin?

 

Lovely cockpit. I might consider a different seat just for support and comfort reasons were long trips in the future. Engine bay to die for in the true days of Enzo spirit.

 

Have you had time to get the curb weight on her yet?

 

 

I cannot believe your wife has not needled you for a pair of matching Messerschmitt's yetbiggrin.gif Pricey is relative in this instance.

 

Edit. You know it's funny, I've never checked to see it there is a kit for those out there.confused.gif


Edited by Hutnicks - 8/25/13 at 5:11pm
post #4195 of 9498
Thread Starter 
It's a lot more complicated than that. They lengthened and widened the wheelbase and completely rebodied it. This was a pretty epic undertaking. redface.gif But, yes, they do make entire 288 replica kits that use a donor 308 or 328.
Edited by Magick Man - 8/25/13 at 7:34pm
post #4196 of 9498
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It's a lot more complicated than that. They lengthened and widened the wheelbase and completely rebodied it. This was a pretty epic undertaking. redface.gif But, yes, they do make entire 288 replica kits that use a donor 308 or 328.


No No I was talking Messerscmitt replica, any interest?

 

Epic sounds right more like a complete remanufacturing. Someone really loved the idea of a GTO there, love to meet him.

post #4197 of 9498
Thread Starter 
The whole kit, including the donor car, is 1/10th the price of a real GTO. All the work plus the turbos, intercoolers, and transmission is where the money is. Still, it's only 1/4 the price, all in, so from that perspective it's a bargain. I'm betting it was a mechanic's project, something to do in his spare time, much like the 300SL GW. My wife wants a Messerschmitt, we're just waiting to find a good one, they aren't easy to locate.
Edited by Magick Man - 8/25/13 at 8:08pm
post #4198 of 9498
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

The whole kit, including the donor car, is 1/10th the price of a real GTO. All the work plus the turbos, intercoolers, and transmission is where the money is. Still, it's only a 1/4 the price, so from that perspective it's a bargain. I'm betting it was a mechanic's project, something to do in his spare time, much like the 300SL GW. My wife wants a Messerschmitt, we're just waiting to find a good one, they aren't easy to locate.


That pretty much makes it a drivers dream (If you don't mind the sneers from "real" GTO owners, wherever they might be). That could very well be the supercar deal of the century. I'm loving the idea of a (more) affordable supercar that does not have the cringe factor of a limited production factory effort. Plus I just never get tired of looking at that body style. Ferrari oh Ferrari just where did you go wrong? Methinks cad software was the beginning of the end for organic designs.

post #4199 of 9498
I agree - and I suspect the desire to squeeze the last tenth of a second off the 0-60 time or the last hundreth of a g off the skidpad has put the design secondary to the latest g-whiz technologies. I am absolutely the last person to *ever* put form over function - but when function goes so far that the designer just throws up his/her hands and just sort of smooths the areas between all the ducts and ports, then you've gone too far. I think there should be room for something between a Mazda Miata and an Aston Martin Vantage that isn't just a sports coupe with the top cut off...
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

I agree - and I suspect the desire to squeeze the last tenth of a second off the 0-60 time or the last hundreth of a g off the skidpad has put the design secondary to the latest g-whiz technologies. I am absolutely the last person to *ever* put form over function - but when function goes so far that the designer just throws up his/her hands and just sort of smooths the areas between all the ducts and ports, then you've gone too far. I think there should be room for something between a Mazda Miata and an Aston Martin Vantage that isn't just a sports coupe with the top cut off...


Bently looking like a Chrysler 300, Charger and Camaro indistinguishable. When you start letting the computer put all the pieces together there is a very limited output. Design for ease of production was not necessarily a good idea for the high end limited market.

 

I wonder if CAD CAM had existed back in the day, if mid engine cars would have ever come to being?

 

Where have you gone Stan Mott?

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