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I'm actually not that surprised that the LFA was not your cup of tea. I think I've read enough from you to say that the mega-technology cars (McLaren, LFA, Bugatti, etc) are not your preference. You seem to prefer supercars that are a bit more "pure" - lightweight, high horsepower, quick response in acceleration & steering and perfect handling balance. Is that a fair observation? I can understand that - the software shouldn't *be* the car - it should only enhance the inherent greatness.

Right on, there. I do love the MP4-12C, but because it's a great car in general, not because it's a great sports car. It's much too fancy and sophisticated for that. I love my sports cars to feel analog and edgy, something you can't find in many modern supercars anymore. The Carrera GT is the end of one era and the beginning of the current. It has great technology from modern mechanicals, and ample power, but it was before the electronic nannies (and flappy paddles) took over. It's almost unique in that there's just enough of one but not too much of the other. The F40 is great, but it's a little too raw, same for the F1. They're both incredible cars, and I wouldn't change them at all, but they don't have that same balance.
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Wow, the Aston didn't make T1 hmm that's not a car that takes lightly to neglect. The Bently you can always give to the wife. The Ruf, worth having in any condition if you are prepared to do the work. Testarossa, why not, not ever my favourite, but always saleable. The Revention is scary pricey, the Jag just makes me sad. Think they will move it down a tier? If not there must be a Jaguar rescue society somewhere that can pressure them.

I'm curious to see how this shakes out. Any idea on who might bite at the Revention?

The Reventon? I'd imagine some sheik who missed them the first time will get it. I like it, but if I'm to pay that much for a Lamborghini, it'll be a Sesto Elemento.

I'm not too worried about the Aston if I get it, it's essentially a Vanquish with a custom body. The mechanicals are the same and they have experience (and parts) from working with mine. As far as they go, the Vanquish is pretty simple to work on compared to other Astons, I'm told. No ESC and other advanced systems to bother with. I like that era of Bentley, it's a big, torquey, bruiser of a car, before they got all fancy with aluminum. It's steel, iron, leather, and wood, the way they should be. smily_headphones1.gif I've been curious about that Ruf for a while, many journalists claim it's like a Carrera GT but with a harder edge and extra insanity added, that could be good. The thing about the XJ220 is how much work it will take and how badly it's deteriorated mechanically. They aren't cracking it open or even trying to start it, it's sold as-is with a wash and clean up, so it's potluck.
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From the moment I saw the LFA's North American public-show debut at NAIAS 2010, I've been bored with it. I could never say why.

It's a bit of a confused supercar, IMO, it can't decide if it's a GT, luxury coupe, or a sports car. Much like the Veyron.
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Magick: Ever heard of these guys?
http://www.exoticclassics.com/inventory.htm

They have a few interesting cars - I like the low mileage Maseratis and Astons...

That's the company my wife bought my resto-modded E-type from (because they'd accept AmEx) for Xmas, they're okay but their prices are on the upper end of excessive. ~20% over CMV. In fact, they have another E-type that's exactly like mine, down to the paint color, top (it's a lighter blue this time), and everything! http://www.exoticclassics.com/1965-jaguar-xke-c-183.htm? LOL! Well, if it sells keep doing it, right?
Edited by Magick Man - 8/11/13 at 8:45pm
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Has anybody ever had experience with Valenti Classics in Milwaukee? They have a really clean 5.0-based Factory 5 Cobra build for sale that isn't much like their usual (factory-stock-restoration) offerings, but the price they're asking is quite reasonable if the build is done as well in person as it looks in photographs. They usually deal in high-end muscle car restorations, but the Factory Five caught my eye today.

 

http://valenticlassics.com/valenti/

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Right on, there. I do love the MP4-12C, but because it's a great car in general, not because it's a great sports car. It's much too fancy and sophisticated for that. I love my sports cars to feel analog and edgy, something you can't find in many modern supercars anymore. The Carrera GT is the end of one era and the beginning of the current. It has great technology from modern mechanicals, and ample power, but it was before the electronic nannies (and flappy paddles) took over. It's almost unique in that there's just enough of one but not too much of the other. The F40 is great, but it's a little too raw, same for the F1. They're both incredible cars, and I wouldn't change them at all, but they don't have that same balance.
The Reventon? I'd imagine some sheik who missed them the first time will get it. I like it, but if I'm to pay that much for a Lamborghini, it'll be a Sesto Elemento.

 

Oh ok, I fully understand. I do get the appeal of the Carrera GT, it's a truly superbly wonderful car that represents the end of the analog era supercars but what I would say is that the Mercedes Mclaren SLR is actually the beginning of the current era of supercars. A bit like the F40 vs the 959 during the late 80's.

The Noble M600 might be your kind of car then but it's quite a shame that it probably might be illegal to import one to the US anyway since it might or will not comply to any kind of US regulations.

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Ahh - right - didn't they just sort of "forget" to tell her that it wasn't a completely original E-type? rolleyes.gif

So - let's, say you were to get the XJ220 and you spend a ton of time & money on it. After all that, you would still have a Jag XJ220 - one of the most universally panned supercars ever produced. The classic Clarkson line on the XJ220: "It has brakes, they just don't work."

I'm willing to bet that after you got XJ220 restored, you would never drive it - it would just p!ss you off... wink.gif I suppose you could flip it - do you think you could turn a profit on it?
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Oh ok, I fully understand. I do get the appeal of the Carrera GT, it's a truly superbly wonderful car that represents the end of the analog era supercars but what I would say is that the Mercedes Mclaren SLR is actually the beginning of the current era of supercars. A bit like the F40 vs the 959 during the late 80's.
The Noble M600 might be your kind of car then but it's quite a shame that it probably might be illegal to import one to the US anyway since it might or will not comply to any kind of US regulations.

I don't really think of the SLR as a sports car, it's more of a GT/Euro muscle car, with its auto tranny. Especially the Mansory variety, which is even more forgiving in the suspension area. It's a big pussycat compared to the Carrera GT.
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Ahh - right - didn't they just sort of "forget" to tell her that it wasn't a completely original E-type? rolleyes.gif

So - let's, say you were to get the XJ220 and you spend a ton of time & money on it. After all that, you would still have a Jag XJ220 - one of the most universally panned supercars ever produced. The classic Clarkson line on the XJ220: "It has brakes, they just don't work."

I'm willing to bet that after you got XJ220 restored, you would never drive it - it would just p!ss you off... wink.gif I suppose you could flip it - do you think you could turn a profit on it?

LOL! They didn't forget, she didn't know what to ask and they didn't volunteer. She just thought it was pretty and they gave a 1 year warranty with it. rolleyes.gif

I don't mind restoring the XJ220 and getting it back on the road, for the right price, there are brake and suspension upgrades we can do to fix those issues. They don't have to remain as crappy as they were from the factory. wink.gif A lot of people have gone to aftermarket wheels to accommodate larger, beefier brakes. These look pretty good, better than the originals, IMO:

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Ahh - right - didn't they just sort of "forget" to tell her that it wasn't a completely original E-type? rolleyes.gif

So - let's, say you were to get the XJ220 and you spend a ton of time & money on it. After all that, you would still have a Jag XJ220 - one of the most universally panned supercars ever produced. The classic Clarkson line on the XJ220: "It has brakes, they just don't work."

I'm willing to bet that after you got XJ220 restored, you would never drive it - it would just p!ss you off... wink.gif I suppose you could flip it - do you think you could turn a profit on it?

 

Or you could do a massive flame burnout like this guy did. biggrin.gif

 

The XJ220 is a striking supercar to look at but its proportions are a bit ridiculous. I mean it's bloody wide.

 

And speaking of Jaaaaaaaaag...

Just build the damn thing already!!!!!

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Holy moly Jaguar!!

 

(As JC would say)
 

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Mine! eek.gif My minion is already moving in on it.

http://mycarquest.com/2013/08/amc-amx3-by-bizzarrini-for-sale-a-bizzarrini-developed-super-car-powered-by-american-motors.html

Happy day! Now I'm going to bed.

Love it! I'll bet the Sultan doesn't have one of those!! tongue.gif
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Love it! I'll bet the Sultan doesn't have one of those!! tongue.gif

The $million$ question, do you fully restore it or leave it alone?
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Bugger-all, the ultimate car video:



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The $million$ question, do you fully restore it or leave it alone?

I would restore it - but I wouldn't mod it - in fact, I would do only minimal work. It was a concours car in the 90s, and I would try to get it close to that without going show-car wacko. That's an extremely rare car, and I think it has earned the right to stay original.
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The $million$ question, do you fully restore it or leave it alone?


Drivability comes into play here. If she is to be driven, put off the resto until you either decide to part with it or don't want to drive it any longer.

 

Be interesting to see if anyone at BMW could dig up any documentation on the tests.

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I would restore it - but I wouldn't mod it - in fact, I would do only minimal work. It was a concours car in the 90s, and I would try to get it close to that without going show-car wacko. That's an extremely rare car, and I think it has earned the right to stay original.
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Drivability comes into play here. If she is to be driven, put off the resto until you either decide to part with it or don't want to drive it any longer.

Be interesting to see if anyone at BMW could dig up any documentation on the tests.

Agreed, on both counts. However, I won't be getting it, it seems. A museum is really working to get it, and even though I was in before them I'm going to back out. A car that rare and historically important needs to be at a place where people can see and appreciate it. I love rare, exclusive cars as much as the next person, but with that vehicle I'd have to take special considerations, and really wouldn't be able to do what I want with it. So, Muscle Car City in Florida, you owe me one.

On the other side, we're GTG on the Dubai deal(s). Bouncing for joy emoticon - bouncing-for-joy-smiley-emoticon.gif They agreed to sell the XJ220 by itself, kinda, they also have some engine blocks, heads, and other mechanicals that we can use, including a V12 from a Murcielago LP640, so I'm getting those as well. My minion is going over there with backup to finalize that. Yes, Dubai... I'm actually a little jealous right now.

Fans of the Doctor, check this out. It's awesomely cool!

http://jalopnik.com/google-maps-has-an-incredible-dr-who-easter-egg-1121878011
Edited by Magick Man - 8/13/13 at 10:59am
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Hey billy, AKG headphone sale, since you missed out on the previous clearance:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/akg-m-80-mkii-semi-open-studio-headphone

Not sure how good it is, but it's AKG so it should be pretty respectable. For $30 it's worth the risk.
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