or Connect
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Misc.-Category Forums › Members' Lounge (General Discussion) › An audiophile and petrolhead's journal: Buckle up!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

An audiophile and petrolhead's journal: Buckle up! - Page 262

post #3916 of 9498
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

Just got back not long ago and sh*t, I'm bushed, it's been a really long day. Very fun, but extremely hard on an old fart like me. BTW, Wolverine was very good, we liked it alot.

blink.gif Seriously? This is the car you're waiting on the edge of your seat for?


***

The way it drives is like... a GT-R and Mac F1, and Corvette had a bastard love child. Oh wait, that's 3 people, isn't it? Well whatever, it's good. It's very, very good. It has basic throttle-control TC that can be switched off, but no ESC, not even airbags, there's no other safety gear in this car except seat belts (and a pair of extra harnesses) and rollcage. All in all, it's very pure and clean with minimal fidgety buttons and switches. Fit and finish is good>excellent, given its class, but with that handmade feel (doesn't give off a strong kit car vibe). However, there are things they got wrong:

I asked for black int, I got orange and black. That's the most serious, because I wanted it to be basic in case I ever decided to paint it another color.
They gave me CF valve covers and manifold, I asked for aluminum. But, that was only due to price of the CF option ($1500), so that's really a free upgrade.
The tranny temp gauge didn't work. WTH? The cable was disconnected from the sensor. Really? (Okay, maybe this is the most serious.)
I ordered carbon barreled HRE wheels, got the stock Forgelines. They're nice, but not $20k nice, they're sending me the correct ones and I'm going to buy the Forgelines for track use.
It has the basic stereo when I requested it to be deleted. I don't like audio in cars like these, it's a distraction and can detract from the engine sound.
No printed manual, just a DVD with all the schematics, specs, and testing data. That's all good to have, but I like getting a big book.

It's not something they did wrong, but the suspension setup (by Penske) requires a ME degree from MIT to figure out. There are literally >10000 damping combinations. eek.gif And it must have been set on the hardest one, because it didn't have any give at all. My guys are pretty good, though, they sorted it all out and even taught me how to adjust it. We got the basic track and street presets done, and that's generally fine with me for now. Set softer it's pretty darned comfortable, not MP4 standard, but it beats a GT-R or C6 vette, it handles small>moderate bumps like a champ. Seats are nice with good support and hold you in well.

I didn't get to drive it very long before dark, but it's a beast. The electric-asst R&P steering is fantastic, it has a very analog, direct feel with a tight turn radius from L-to-L. And chassis balance is neutral to slight understeer, but nothing that can't be washed out with a little power. In fact, making it misbehave isn't hard at all, but mechanically it wants to grip and stay true (tons of grip). The throttle response is telepathic, and that's the only way it is, there are no options for that. It's balls-out crazy as standard and it makes no excuses for it. It's like "hey, I'm a racecar, if you didn't want that you should have bought a Gallardo", the same as the F1, actually (we can tune some of that out with a few presets, programmable ECU). No, out of the box this car isn't for tourists, or porky well-to-do CEOs who want a go-fast car for the weekends. If you don't pay attention, it'll bite your hand and spit back your fingers. That's really admirable and I love that. However, the clutch isn't heavy, it's pretty light really, as far as things like this go. The Tremec 6-spd is great, as usual, and the rear ratio is pretty short (3.91), with a redline shift from 1>2 @45mph. It's easily a 3s car to 60 with a good launch and shift, 10s in the quarter. Early opinion is, I very much like it, but it would probably intimidate the hell out of all but hardcore drivers, because there are few compromises to accommodate chuckleheads who just want an expensive car to drive around town. This is Falcon's greatest achievement, and potentially their downfall. It's too much of a handful for rich, stupid people.
Shut yo mouth! tongue.gif It does look better in person. But, if you, say, hate the look of the GTR or LFA, then you likely wouldn't dig the F7 either. All that carbon fiber is impressive, however, and despite that it manages to look understated, compared to a Ferrari or Lambo, and that's not really a bad thing, to me.


Ahh. To each there own. To me it still looks like a knock off Aston that was ironed and folded the wrong way.biggrin.gif Just does not have the draw for me. (flips over to Lancia Stratos replica page for the umpteenth time)wink_face.gif

post #3917 of 9498
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

Just got back not long ago and sh*t, I'm bushed, it's been a really long day. Very fun, but extremely hard on an old fart like me. BTW, Wolverine was very good, we liked it alot.

blink.gif Seriously? This is the car you're waiting on the edge of your seat for?


***
 

 

That looks nice! I agree with you on that interior.......I wouldn't have wanted the orange either. 

post #3918 of 9498

Why haven't I heard of the Falcon F7 before?

 

It does look good in various angles but I can't shake the feeling that it looks like it could do with a bit of polishing, a bit like the first generation Zonda. I'm sure that over the years, it will look even better. But if it drives very well, everyone's happy. biggrin.gif

 

Oh yeah and I agree with The Wolverine film. It's very, very good. 1000x better than the X-Men Origins film.

post #3919 of 9498
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by VortexBlast View Post

Why haven't I heard of the Falcon F7 before?

It does look good in various angles but I can't shake the feeling that it looks like it could do with a bit of polishing, a bit like the first generation Zonda. I'm sure that over the years, it will look even better. But if it drives very well, everyone's happy. biggrin.gif

I don't think that will be an issue, unfortunately. Their orders are way down over last year, and they only make ~$40k /car. Word of mouth is that it's too rough and difficult to manage, and for most people that's correct. It's practically bulletproof; a blueprinted LS7 (this one w/ bi-turbo), basic 6-spd stick, with very few gadgets and gizmos. There's great technology in it, but it isn't the type that makes non-car people go "Ooooo..." It's just a very well built car. The car it reminds me of the most is the Carrera GT, now that I've gotten a chance to sit and think about it and go over my notes. The handling similarities are uncanny, though the Porsche is a little heavier and doesn't have as much power.

Quote:
Oh yeah and I agree with The Wolverine film. It's very, very good. 1000x better than the X-Men Origins film.

We liked it. It's true they butchered the story compared to the comic, but that's Hollywood. Those things never migrate to film very well.
post #3920 of 9498
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


I don't think that will be an issue, unfortunately. Their orders are way down over last year, and they only make ~$40k /car. Word of mouth is that it's too rough and difficult to manage, and for most people that's correct. It's practically bulletproof; a blueprinted LS7 (this one w/ bi-turbo), basic 6-spd stick, with very few gadgets and gizmos. There's great technology in it, but it isn't the type that makes non-car people go "Ooooo..." It's just a very well built car. The car it reminds me of the most is the Carrera GT, now that I've gotten a chance to sit and think about it and go over my notes. The handling similarities are uncanny, though the Porsche is a little heavier and doesn't have as much power.
 

 

I meant the little details in the styling. I'm sure that the F7 is well built and well designed in the engineering and mechanics department. It's just that when I look at it, some design tweaks could be made to look even more beautiful. For instance, the gap between the wheel arch and the tyres could be a bit more tighter. If you look at the Koenigsegg, it's quite flush. Also the side windows, it could look even better if it was the whole glass that is a moving part and not a portion of it. That bit there that separates the side window to the small triangular part of the window kind of puts me off and those wheels doesn't seem to fit the design of the car very well. Wheel designs like the HRE S101 or S104 should work well with this because they follow the lines of the car well. I could point out at other tiny bits but I'm just nitpicking here. It's a small company after all.


Edited by VortexBlast - 8/2/13 at 9:36am
post #3921 of 9498

I really don't mind the looks, in a Saleen S7 or Gumpert Apollo sort of way. It's not beautiful by any means, but it screams aggression and power. It looks like a mishmash between a 'Vette and the dream Mitsubishi Eclipse of some Fast & Furious-raised twenty-something, with the proportions of a Marussia B2. A strange mix, but it works.

post #3922 of 9498
Thread Starter 
I've been talking with Singer Vehicle Design lately, since February of this year, and I've finally decided to pull the trigger on one of their 911s. They have a project that's half done and the buyer backed out, so I'm picking up where they left off. It's fine with me, it's how'd I'd want it anyway, except I want the larger 3.8L 425hp Cosworth engine (over the 360). That means they'll need to backtrack a little to accommodate that, but it's not an issue. All the interior and exterior options have already been sourced, so I'll need to love the choices that have been made, but given what I was told and the samples I was shown, I will anyway. She's going to be a gorgeous addition to the collection. smily_headphones1.gif

Further, we found a neat thing, what does this look like?





Well, it may look like a 288 GTO, but it isn't one. It's an near-exactly executed replica, built from a 308 GTB. It's so precise, including engine and drivetrain, that it wasn't discovered as a fake until the present owner went to get info about it from Ferrari themselves (in fact a local Ferrari "expert" had told him it was likely authentic, despite the missing door plate). There's no proof anyone has been swindled, the man had inherited it from a now-deceased relative who left it to him. I'd imagine that he feels cheated in some way, but it is what it is. He's selling it and I made an offer, and I think it's a very fair one, so we'll see.
post #3923 of 9498
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

Well, it may look like a 288 GTO, but it isn't one. It's an near-exactly executed replica, built from a 308 GTB. It's so precise, including engine and drivetrain, that it wasn't discovered as a fake until the present owner went to get info about it from Ferrari themselves (in fact a local Ferrari "expert" had told him it was likely authentic, despite the missing door plate). There's no proof anyone has been swindled, the man had inherited it from a now-deceased relative who left it to him. I'd imagine that he feels cheated in some way, but it is what it is. He's selling it and I made an offer, and I think it's a very fair one, so we'll see.

Approximately where is that located? I had a business associate with a 288 GTO just like this one at one point, and I'm hoping he didn't get a nasty surprise.

post #3924 of 9498
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

I've been talking with Singer Vehicle Design lately, since February of this year, and I've finally decided to pull the trigger on one of their 911s. They have a project that's half done and the buyer backed out, so I'm picking up where they left off. It's fine with me, it's how'd I'd want it anyway, except I want the larger 3.8L 425hp Cosworth engine (over the 360). That means they'll need to backtrack a little to accommodate that, but it's not an issue. All the interior and exterior options have already been sourced, so I'll need to love the choices that have been made, but given what I was told and the samples I was shown, I will anyway. She's going to be a gorgeous addition to the collection. smily_headphones1.gif
Ever since you posted that clip with Chris Harris driving it, I really want one tongue.gif sadly I don't think it is sold in Australia nor will I ever be able to afford one smily_headphones1.gif
post #3925 of 9498
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post

Approximately where is that located? I had a business associate with a 288 GTO just like this one at one point, and I'm hoping he didn't get a nasty surprise.

California, but the guy's uncle had it done and then passed it to him, so no one's been burned, strictly speaking.
post #3926 of 9498
The Falcon's interior is - umm - BRIGHT... tongue.gif

On the 288 GTO replica - great, yet ANOTHER Ferrari that I had no idea existed! Clearly, there are FAR more Ferrari that I don't know than that I do know... redface.gif
post #3927 of 9498
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

The Falcon's interior is - umm - BRIGHT... tongue.gif

On the 288 GTO replica - great, yet ANOTHER Ferrari that I had no idea existed! Clearly, there are FAR more Ferrari that I don't know than that I do know... redface.gif

Yeah I'm not happy with that, I'm hoping it grows on me.


The 288 GTO was actually the first Ferrari "supercar", and under the skin is very similar to the F40. IMO it's one of the more attractive Ferraris ever made, especially in profile.



post #3928 of 9498
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


Yeah I'm not happy with that, I'm hoping it grows on me.


The 288 GTO was actually the first Ferrari "supercar", and under the skin is very similar to the F40. IMO it's one of the more attractive Ferraris ever made, especially in profile.




True there. The 308 series was stunning, looking like more of an evolution of the Dino than anything else. It was a great decision to base the 288 on that rather than the decidedly more masculine 512BB. I'm not sure what the appreciation factor on the ersatz 288 will be though. Are you buying it for investment?

post #3929 of 9498
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutnicks View Post


True there. The 308 series was stunning, looking like more of an evolution of the Dino than anything else. It was a great decision to base the 288 on that rather than the decidedly more masculine 512BB. I'm not sure what the appreciation factor on the ersatz 288 will be though. Are you buying it for investment?

Eh, more of a toy/curiosity. I've offered more than a stock 308 but considerably less than a 288, less than a 1/10th of the value of a real one. He may not even go for it, but it would be wise if he did, technically it's not worth very much at all.
post #3930 of 9498
I have an idea for what to do with the almost a GTO - this looks like fun (& expensive!)

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Misc.-Category Forums › Members' Lounge (General Discussion) › An audiophile and petrolhead's journal: Buckle up!