That depends on which engine you get in the Cayenne. The 4.8L V8 twin turbo is 2X the price of the base model. Also, if you add some of the Sport & Premium packages to the Cayenne, the price climbs very quickly.
A couple of months ago my wife came home and said: "I saw a Porsche SUV for $15K!" Naturally, I said "Really, where?" Of course, there was more to the story... This was a 2004 Cayenne with 180K miles on it being sold at a low-end used car lot known for selling high mileage, repos, salvage titles and other detritus of the road. Ummm... Yeah... TBNT...
Yeah, that's where Porsche gets you, the options list. An $80k car can get to >110k faster than you can blink. This one has relatively few options but only 12k miles on it, and I still got it for 20% under list. That was pretty good, since new ones are backordered. Good call on avoiding that older Cayenne, you'd have the purchase price worth of repairs in the first year, if not more. Whoever buys that one won't be driving it for long.
That's the thing, will they sell them here? BTW, we did get the one I posted and it's at the shop now, can't wait to drive that, since I've never been in a TVR before.
I agree with that, the Veyron is an engineering marvel, the last of its kind but I feel that in a sense it's no longer a true Bugatti for me. When it was launched back in 2004, yeah sure I really liked the Veyron a lot, it was my favourite car but as I grew older I find it less and less attractive because of one thing: the statement of money.
A lot of average non-car guys know that the Veyron is the most expensive car in the world and because of that, I bet that a lot of Veyron owners (probably the younger ones) use it as a tool to show off their wealth. We can also see by how many special edition Veyrons has been made but there are no signs of intention from Bugatti to bring another car like the Galibier. Now I see Bugatti being more and more as a lifestyle brand now and not a proper sports car manufacturer.
Ettore Bugatti used to build his car from passion and also to prove that he can make anything (take the Royale for example). His cars were beautiful and also very, very innovative at that time. With today's Bugatti, they managed to take a too big of a giant leap in automotive engineering that lead to a form of trap.
To me it isn't about price, I don't care, it's the fact it's now THE status car, the benchmark if you're a self-centered sod. There are others that are more expensive, like the Agera R, but the wankers aren't buying those, likely because they're not nearly so forgiving (and don't have as much bling). Rappers don't write songs about Koenigsegg or Pagani, and I'm glad of it.
Today's drive home was one of those really frustrating commutes. I ran into traffic shortly after getting on the freeway, so I crawled to the next exit, got off and headed up to an alternate route that winds it's way through the hills and will eventually meet back-up with the freeway about 15 miles farther down. The alternate route is a narrow, winding two lane road that can be either 1) a lot of fun; or 2) horrific - depending on who is in front of you. As soon as I got on the two lane road, I found myself behind an SUV (uh-oh) and then I noticed it was an SUV driven by an elderly couple with a Disabled Person license plates (triple UH-OH!) So, the next 15 miles of winding road was a max of 30 MPH and a lot of it less than 20 MPH - with absolutely no opportunity to pass. I debated whether I should go back to the freeway, but decided to stick with the devil I knew. When I finally got back to the freeway, it was moving at full speed, telling me I probably should have taken an earlier connector from the 2-lane road. And, of course, as soon as I got back on the freeway (literally less than a mile!) - I hit more traffic and crawled another 10+ miles through some freeway construction. Then the freeway finally opened up to 3 lanes each direction. This usually that gives me enough room to weave my way through the hordes of Priuses and SUVs to find some running room. But not today. Today, the three lanes were stuffed with the aforementioned Priuses and SUVs - AND those incredibly annoying local delivery panel trucks that are always in the middle or fast lanes because they are going 3 MPH faster than big semis and the landscaping pickups with the rakes and shovels tied to the sides of the stakebed. My GAWD - GTFOoMW!! So, my 60 mile commute that I can often do in 50 minutes (or less) was 90 minutes.
OK - I admit it - I drive too fast. Way too fast. I do not like going "the flow of traffic" - I like being in the front and pulling away. Being next to the same car for mile after mile makes me crazy. If you have been on the same road with me, you have probably flipped me off.
On the upside, I did see two interesting cars on the freeway today. One was a red Ferrari 360 and the other was a car that I don't think I have ever seen on the road before: a red Porsche 968 Cabriolet - which I have always thought was the Platypus of the Porsche family - combine all the parts of the Porsche models you don't like into one car - and you get a 968.
You need to get out of LA billy, that's all there is to it. I'll bet that 360 driver was hating life, that's not a good traffic car, for many reasons. The primary being that they can and will overheat if the cooling system hasn't been modified.
Well, the deal didn't go on that Carrera GT, we couldn't meet on a price, but we worked out one for another. It has more miles, less features, but a better color. It should be on its way next week.
Went out for some ice cream today, too.