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post #2656 of 9498

Regarding the Australian laws on driving, its as follows:

 

You cant drive a V8 with certain junior licenses. Once you get a full license, knock yourself out.

 

The reason was that kids were killing themselves and their mates in high powered cars. One particular example was the VS Holden Statesman, which I consider the chavmobile of Australia.

 

You could get one for 5-8k and then mod up its 5.7L V8 very cheaply as Holdens are very easily fixed and cheap to maintain.

 

An 18 year old with an antiquated 15 year old  250 kw rear wheel drive sedan and 5 friends in the car is a recipe for disaster. There were accidents in which multiple kids were killed.

 

This was implemented to save kids from themselves as you can still get an exemption for work purposes such as driving a ute as a tradesman or if your work gives you a V8 to tow material or

 

equipment. There is no taxation or chicken little scenario as you can drive anything once you,re on a full licence,

 

I was a stupid 19 year old once too (with a high-powered car to boot)  and very thankful that I came out unscathed out of my stupidity. I treat my cars with a lot more respect now.

 

 

Check this link for more info and details.

 

http://www.aussiev8.com.au/legislation-modified-car-laws/23857-v8-p-plates-full-p-plate-rules-victoria.html

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post #2658 of 9498
Thread Starter 
What happened was I was looking for the Enzo, which is indefinitely impounded by Interpol, that was abandoned in Qatar. Although that car isn't available, the guy told me about the XJ220. It was taken to Abu Dhabi, I believe it was simply loaded up and taken away. The guy who has it now cleaned it up and tried to get it repaired, it doesn't run, but it's beyond his mechanic's abilities (7 years in the desert). So, he's selling it, as is. I told my guy to see what the man wanted, and it's reasonable. We're working out all the details right now (it's intact, just seriously knackered).

We can fix it, make it better, stronger, faster. My mechanic is a Jaguar expert, one of the best in the States.
Edited by Magick Man - 4/14/13 at 7:21pm
post #2659 of 9498
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Originally Posted by gikigill View Post

Regarding the Australian laws on driving, its as follows:

You cant drive a V8 with certain junior licenses. Once you get a full license, knock yourself out.

The reason was that kids were killing themselves and their mates in high powered cars. One particular example was the VS Holden Statesman, which I consider the chavmobile of Australia.

You could get one for 5-8k and then mod up its 5.7L V8 very cheaply as Holdens are very easily fixed and cheap to maintain.

An 18 year old with an antiquated 15 year old  250 kw rear wheel drive sedan and 5 friends in the car is a recipe for disaster. There were accidents in which multiple kids were killed.

This was implemented to save kids from themselves as you can still get an exemption for work purposes such as driving a ute as a tradesman or if your work gives you a V8 to tow material or

equipment. There is no taxation or chicken little scenario as you can drive anything once you,re on a full licence,

I was a stupid 19 year old once too (with a high-powered car to boot)  and very thankful that I came out unscathed out of my stupidity. I treat my cars with a lot more respect now.


Check this link for more info and details.

http://www.aussiev8.com.au/legislation-modified-car-laws/23857-v8-p-plates-full-p-plate-rules-victoria.html

Oh puhleeze! What you are describing is EVERY car driven by a teen in the 1970s. We drove cheap Novas, Camaros, Dusters, Chevelles, Mustangs, El Caminos, Firebirds, Falcons, etc, etc, etc! All with big, easy to work-on V-8s. Drop a big Holley double-pumper and a set of headers on your car, and you could burn through a set of tires every weekend!
post #2660 of 9498
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post


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post #2661 of 9498

Traffic was a lot less at that time and awareness was low on safety and accidents. There were a lot more deaths than what was publicized in news.

 

We have a lot less accidents nowadays despite faster cars so that has to be taken into account too.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year

 

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/1370.0~2010~Chapter~Road%20safety%20%284.9.2%29

 

Note how deaths are lower nowadays. The AU peak in the death rate was actually 1970.

 

Now how could that possibly be with all the kids and their stupidity nowadays. /s

post #2662 of 9498
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Originally Posted by gikigill View Post

Traffic was a lot less at that time and awareness was low on safety and accidents. There were a lot more deaths than what was publicized in news.

We have a lot less accidents nowadays despite faster cars so that has to be taken into account too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/1370.0~2010~Chapter~Road%20safety%20%284.9.2%29

Note how deaths are lower nowadays. The AU peak in the death rate was actually 1970.

Now how could that possibly be with all the kids and their stupidity nowadays. /s

OK - but maybe the kids are more stupid today because the nanny gov't protected their stupid parents instead of letting them be weeded out of the gene pool. Evolution in action! tongue.gif
post #2663 of 9498
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post


The idea of having different plates & restrictions for cars that have 8 or more cylinders is ludicrous. Do they really think teens are any safer in a 4 cylinder car than in an 8 cylinder car? I would like to see the accident statistics supporting that conclusion... rolleyes.gif

A funnier thing is that we aren't allowed to drive a normal golf because its turbo charged (unless you get exemption....)  but we can drive an RX8 or a Lotus Elise wink.gif

post #2664 of 9498
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Originally Posted by gikigill View Post

 

equipment. There is no taxation or chicken little scenario as you can drive anything once you,re on a full licence,

 

 

By tax I ment the tax in Australia is immensely higher then in the US 

post #2665 of 9498
The XJ220 sort of reminds me of that scene from the movie The Outlaw Josie Wales where the character played by Chief Dan George holds up a big piece of red rock candy and says: "It's not for eatin', just for lookin' through"

The XJ220 is not for drivin', it's just for lookin' at... wink.gif
post #2666 of 9498
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gikigill View Post

Regarding the Australian laws on driving, its as follows:

You cant drive a V8 with certain junior licenses. Once you get a full license, knock yourself out.

The reason was that kids were killing themselves and their mates in high powered cars. One particular example was the VS Holden Statesman, which I consider the chavmobile of Australia.

You could get one for 5-8k and then mod up its 5.7L V8 very cheaply as Holdens are very easily fixed and cheap to maintain.

An 18 year old with an antiquated 15 year old  250 kw rear wheel drive sedan and 5 friends in the car is a recipe for disaster. There were accidents in which multiple kids were killed.

This was implemented to save kids from themselves as you can still get an exemption for work purposes such as driving a ute as a tradesman or if your work gives you a V8 to tow material or

equipment. There is no taxation or chicken little scenario as you can drive anything once you,re on a full licence,

I was a stupid 19 year old once too (with a high-powered car to boot)  and very thankful that I came out unscathed out of my stupidity. I treat my cars with a lot more respect now.


Check this link for more info and details.

http://www.aussiev8.com.au/legislation-modified-car-laws/23857-v8-p-plates-full-p-plate-rules-victoria.html

That's interesting. I grew up around big block muscle cars and 12 second cars (1/4 mi), my first was a 5.0L Mustang, cammed and tuned, that made ~300hp. I never had an accident, still haven't, at least not one that caused damage to my car or anything else. IMO, it comes down to being properly bludgeoned with good defensive driving habits. For the first time in her life, my wife is being taught how to drive properly, she's taking lessons to get her racing certificate, and her skills have improved already. Power doesn't kill, lack of focus and training do.
post #2667 of 9498
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

The XJ220 sort of reminds me of that scene from the movie The Outlaw Josie Wales where the character played by Chief Dan George holds up a big piece of red rock candy and says: "It's not for eatin', just for lookin' through"

The XJ220 is not for drivin', it's just for lookin' at... wink.gif

Wait until Richard gets his excited hands on it, he's already parts shopping. smily_headphones1.gif
post #2668 of 9498

"OK - but maybe the kids are more stupid today because the nanny gov't protected their stupid parents instead of letting them be weeded out of the gene pool. Evolution in action! tongue.gif"

 

That,s an age old debate obobs, the previous generation always claims it was better. My parents do it and I will (hopefully not)  probably do the same with my kids.

 

 

Lets get back to cars now. More on Magick,s Jag:

 

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1044117_rare-jaguar-xj220-supercar-abandoned-in-desert

 

The mirrors are from a Citroen CX2 tongue.gif
 

post #2669 of 9498

http://cars.uk.msn.com/news/jaguar-xj220-development-prototype-on-sale-for-%C2%A3180000

 

How about it Magick? Bet no one else will have one in your club besides 2 Jags are better than one.

post #2670 of 9498
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That,s an age old debate obobs,

Don't let the avatar fool you - I wear it in remembrance of our fallen comrade... tongue.gif
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