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I'm still pumped over the cars I was able to see and test, the owner was very gracious and we had a lot of fun. He let me drive a 400GT 2+2 and a Bora, I wanted to get behind the wheel of an Islero that was there, but it was having clutch issues. The 400GT was... well... crap. Although very pretty it really didn't appeal to me. The Bora OTOH, was very sharp and clean in feel, though not very powerful, it handled well and had a proper sense of "Italianness" to it. Plus it was in original paint, a mica blue, with a cream interior. I might still get it, I'm letting that one to stew a little. My wife is like "when are you going to see another one like that?" and she's right. They're still very well-priced, compared to other "supercars" of that era, and that one is much better sorted than most others.

So, the "big item" I bought was a Miura S, a `69/70 (it's titled as a `70 but the SN and Lambo claim it's a late-`69). Before you think "what a great buy", it's a real headcase. It's easier to comment on the positives of it, because they're fewer in number than the bad. It's all original (pretty much), the body is great, and the interior and electrics aren't bad. It was restored and brought over by a land developer ~10 years ago, who then put 50k kms on the clock. However, the service records were "misplaced" when he died and the estate was sold off. It appears that only minimal things were done to keep it "good enough" and all those small things snowballed into large issues. When I asked about the car the salesman got the key and started it up, one of the lifters rattled and it sounded like it had a miss. He assured me that "it needs time to warm up". rolleyes.gif Sure enough, after it heated up it sounded better, but still not 100%. Ominously, it had a small oil puddle under it (which the guy tried to ignore) when we moved the car. Also, until the transmission oil warms up it won't shift into 3rd, or reverse, they called it "temperamental but normal". See, these use the engine oil to also cool the transmission, so oftentimes filings from the transmission find their way into the crankcase, if the oil isn't changed religiously. Since there are no records, I can't know how bad it might be. The suspension in the rear is shot, the speedo sometimes sticks, all the brakes are severely worn, there's a tick from the front when turning left (bad tie rod), and there's a host of small mechanical niggles. Then, on top of all that, the paint is crap. It has one of the worst cases of orange peel I've ever seen. There are even places on it that have been touched up with a paint repair pen. Originally it was silver (Argento, according to records, chassis #4262), but someone got it in their mind that it would look better red, but with a blue interior. blink.gif



That's just... wrong. I really like this blue, for it:



Anyway, there's a lot to do, but we're already sourcing parts for the drivetrain rebuild, as well some upgrades, so it's gonna be a lot of fun.

Make it yellow tongue_smile.gif How much did you pay for it? 

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 I really like this blue, for it:



Anyway, there's a lot to do, but we're already sourcing parts for the drivetrain rebuild, as well some upgrades, so it's gonna be a lot of fun.

Agreed on that blue....should be very nice when finished! Are you planning that as a flipper or a keeper?

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First time  I've ever seen or heard of this model, but I like it.

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Agreed on that blue....should be very nice when finished! Are you planning that as a flipper or a keeper?

Definitely a keeper, it's been a dream of mine to get one and it seemed like the right time. I can't say much about price, but we worked out a good deal, as a package for several cars. It all worked out well, in light of current values.

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The Alfa is marvelous Magick. The I6 is actually more reliable and less eccentric to work upon. Sounds rorty too and if I,m not mistaken, has a downward/angled intake.

Buy it mate, even the steering is on the correct side (for you) and would be a unique sight. Maybe I should look at one of these beauties too.

Thanks, yeah I'm really crazy about that little Alfa. It has such a great analog feel to it, and the Lancia is the same. The way it tracks, the very mechanical feel of the shifter and gearbox. It's an awesome little car. Modern sports cars don't have that.
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Why in the frak didn't I buy that Bora? I'm still trying to figure out what came over me. confused.gif
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I remember in the late 70s, The Bora was always the "other" car whenever the Countach and/or Boxer was reviewed. I always liked them - they often didn't get the respect they deserved. I think part of the problem might have been the mods required to make them US DOT legal. The bumpers and smog HW were not very kind to the Bora.
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I remember in the late 70s, The Bora was always the "other" car whenever the Countach and/or Boxer was reviewed. I always liked them - they often didn't get the respect they deserved. I think part of the problem might have been the mods required to make them US DOT legal. The bumpers and smog HW were not very kind to the Bora.

Now that all of them are >25 y/o, any of them can be brought over, if you follow the correct procedures. I wonder why more folks don't do that, given that many of these overseas cars are almost half the price you'd expect to pay in the States (and don't have the stupid bumpers and crazy emissions garbage (that doesn't even work most of the time). The Bora, as an example, would be $80k here, but sells for 50k there.
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and I kinda don't have the Westones anymore... they were sort of traded/given away. redface.gif
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LOL - If you traded the Westones for a Bora, you got a d@mn good deal! tongue.gif
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Nah, for something more rare. wink.gif


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You know Orson?!  eek.gif


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You know Orson?!  eek.gif

This is the 3rd time I've met him. Once at Dragoncon, again at Comic-Con, and earlier on this flight. He did remember me, and this is the 3rd sig I've gotten, after Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead.
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You know Orson?!  eek.gif

This is the 3rd time I've met him. Once at Dragoncon, again at Comic-Con, and earlier on this flight. He did remember me, and this is the 3rd sig I've gotten, after Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead.

 

Wow, what luck that you happen to be on the same flight!  smile.gif  Just happen to have had a first edition hardcover of Xenocide ages ago, but I can't remember if I traded it for something along the way.  And BTW, are you excited about the new Ender film?  I've long thought that should be a film.  Glad that it's finally happening.


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Eh, I'm nervous about the new film, and I believe Card is too. That's going to be tough to pull off and I hope they don't Hollywood it up too much. I saw him board and waved him over. We talked more about Alvin Maker than Ender, and a lot about metaphysical principles and the like. It was really good, he's a sharp guy. Like he said; we agree philosophically, but not on mythology. The IEMs he had were really awful, some disposable earbuds, so I gave him the Westones to keep.

And no, I didn't have Xenocide on me, so I went down to the bookstore after arriving at DIA and bought it for him to sign.
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Very cool! Card's Enderverse is very, very cool. Ender's game was absolutely brilliant. The later books did get a bit complicated for me. I also have trouble with prequels and series written out of time order - I tend to build a picture of the characters as I read, and when the author goes back in time and gives a bunch a details that don't match my own thinking I get frustrated. That's also why I cannot stand the vast majority of movies created from great sci-fi books. It just never works for me. I wish him the best of luck and I hope Hollywood respects his genius!
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Was going to call the dealer about the Bora, but he ended up contacting me instead, offering it at a (little) lower price. At least 4 cars will fit in one container, so it won't cost much more than transporting 3. I'm happy, that was a really nice car; 1977, 4.9L, 18k miles, all original, Euro spec (no stupid smog crap or the ugly bumpers), with AC. It's been restored but nothing huge, engine overhaul, new paint, tires, shocks, and minor body fixes. I think it was far ahead of its time, and not just as some type of supercar, but as a usable GT too. It's much more comfortable and usable than the Lambos, or even Ferraris, of its day. Still looks rather modern, too.



Oh, and this was NFS, a 275 GTB/4. frown.gif Not that I would have paid what he probably would have wanted. Hah.



Edited by Magick Man - 3/31/13 at 11:53pm
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