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The Daytona would be easier to sell.
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


Boo! She even made me try on some clothes. frown.gif

Okay, as a filler, to seal a deal (both are kit replicas, of course):

Type 51 Bugatti


or

250 GTO (as if I needed to label it)

What are the kits built on, and what kind of powertrains are there?

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The Daytona would be easier to sell.

You mean the GTO replicar?
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What are the kits built on, and what kind of powertrains are there?

The GTO is fiberglass w/ Ford V8 and running gear. Nice interior. The Bugatti is a T51 steel kit, the body is Argentinian, I believe, and it has a Bugatti replica powertrain, but with modern fuel/oil pumps and ignition.



Going back by this morning to wrap up another deal and I'll pick something out when I get there. They have a lot of nice midrange Alfas and Fiats, too.
Edited by Magick Man - 3/29/13 at 11:55am
post #2449 of 9498
Yes - sorry - I meant GTO!

The GTO might sell to anyone that knows the name "Ferrari" and could be someone's daily or weekend driver. The Bugatti would only sell to a real old car enthusiast that couldn't afford a real one or wanted one they could drive.
post #2450 of 9498
I was thinking the blue one would be more "fun" because it's kind of unique, even if it isn't a true vintage car (it also shouldn't have the issues of a true vintage car) - it'd stand out even in Magick's collection. idk, I think it'd be fun to go bombing around in. smily_headphones1.gif
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I absolutely agree with you - if I was going to *keep* one, the Bugatti would be much more interesting to drive on a sunny day or in the local 4th of July parade. However, I assumed Magick would be flipping it as soon as it got back in the states.
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I don't know if I've ever mentioned it, but my wife is exceptionally nosy and has issues with property boundaries.
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In some circles, that is called being a "peeping tom". That didn't work out so well for Henry Fonda...

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Going back by this morning to wrap up another deal and I'll pick something out when I get there. They have a lot of nice midrange Alfas and Fiats, too.

 

Any Lancia Deltas Integrale?


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See, we spent some time at that car dealer's warehouse, and the owner told us to "look around". I'm sure he meant the showroom area, but she decided that the "good stuff" must be in the storage area. So, she takes off, and since I can't tell her no, not that she'd listen, I follow her back there. Back there there's like tons of really cool s***, all manner of neat cars and parts in various stages of repair and condition, even an original Ferrari 275 GTB/4. We'd been looking for a car to seal a much larger deal, and back there we find this:




It's a `61 Alfa 2000 Spider Superleggera. You can see why she homed in on it, given the colors. Alfonso, the owner, probably wasn't too happy that we were snooping, but he's sweet on my wife so he let it slide. rolleyes.gif The main reason he had it back there is because it's kind of a Frankenstein. It has an Alfa 2.6 I6 w/ 5spd gearbox, instead of the proper 2L I4. Otherwise, it was restored ~5 years ago and it really is pretty. 45k total miles on it, gorgeous interior, updated disc brakes, and adjustable dampers w/ custom anti-roll bar. It's as crisp as a new bill. The steering feels amazing and the gearbox has a very sure and mechanical feel, I love how it just clicks into each gear.
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Any Lancia Deltas Integrale?

The mid-70s is about as late as the cars there run, most are from the 40s-60s.
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The Alfa is marvelous Magick. The I6 is actually more reliable and less eccentric to work upon. Sounds rorty too and if I,m not mistaken, has a downward/angled intake.

 

Buy it mate, even the steering is on the correct side (for you) and would be a unique sight. Maybe I should look at one of these beauties too.
 

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See, we spent some time at that car dealer's warehouse, and the owner told us to "look around". I'm sure he meant the showroom area, but she decided that the "good stuff" must be in the storage area. So, she takes off, and since I can't tell her no, not that she'd listen, I follow her back there. Back there there's like tons of really cool s***, all manner of neat cars and parts in various stages of repair and condition, even an original Ferrari 275 GTB/4. We'd been looking for a car to seal a much larger deal, and back there we find this:




It's a `61 Alfa 2000 Spider Superleggera. You can see why she homed in on it, given the colors. Alfonso, the owner, probably wasn't too happy that we were snooping, but he's sweet on my wife so he let it slide. rolleyes.gif The main reason he had it back there is because it's kind of a Frankenstein. It has an Alfa 2.6 I6 w/ 5spd gearbox, instead of the proper 2L I4. Otherwise, it was restored ~5 years ago and it really is pretty. 45k total miles on it, gorgeous interior, updated disc brakes, and adjustable dampers w/ custom anti-roll bar. It's as crisp as a new bill. The steering feels amazing and the gearbox has a very sure and mechanical feel, I love how it just clicks into each gear.

First time  I've ever seen or heard of this model, but I like it.

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I saw a magazine today that this thread may appreciate. It contains some really sexy pics of great cars. :)

 

AppleMark

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I'm still pumped over the cars I was able to see and test, the owner was very gracious and we had a lot of fun. He let me drive a 400GT 2+2 and a Bora, I wanted to get behind the wheel of an Islero that was there, but it was having clutch issues. The 400GT was... well... crap. Although very pretty it really didn't appeal to me. The Bora OTOH, was very sharp and clean in feel, though not very powerful, it handled well and had a proper sense of "Italianness" to it. Plus it was in original paint, a mica blue, with a cream interior. I might still get it, I'm letting that one to stew a little. My wife is like "when are you going to see another one like that?" and she's right. They're still very well-priced, compared to other "supercars" of that era, and that one is much better sorted than most others.

So, the "big item" I bought was a Miura S, a `69/70 (it's titled as a `70 but the SN and Lambo claim it's a late-`69). Before you think "what a great buy", it's a real headcase. It's easier to comment on the positives of it, because they're fewer in number than the bad. It's all original (pretty much), the body is great, and the interior and electrics aren't bad. It was restored and brought over by a land developer ~10 years ago, who then put 50k kms on the clock. However, the service records were "misplaced" when he died and the estate was sold off. It appears that only minimal things were done to keep it "good enough" and all those small things snowballed into large issues. When I asked about the car the salesman got the key and started it up, one of the lifters rattled and it sounded like it had a miss. He assured me that "it needs time to warm up". rolleyes.gif Sure enough, after it heated up it sounded better, but still not 100%. Ominously, it had a small oil puddle under it (which the guy tried to ignore) when we moved the car. Also, until the transmission oil warms up it won't shift into 3rd, or reverse, they called it "temperamental but normal". See, these use the engine oil to also cool the transmission, so oftentimes filings from the transmission find their way into the crankcase, if the oil isn't changed religiously. Since there are no records, I can't know how bad it might be. The suspension in the rear is shot, the speedo sometimes sticks, all the brakes are severely worn, there's a tick from the front when turning left (bad tie rod), and there's a host of small mechanical niggles. Then, on top of all that, the paint is crap. It has one of the worst cases of orange peel I've ever seen. There are even places on it that have been touched up with a paint repair pen. Originally it was silver (Argento, according to records, chassis #4262), but someone got it in their mind that it would look better red, but with a blue interior. blink.gif



That's just... wrong. I really like this blue, for it:



Anyway, there's a lot to do, but we're already sourcing parts for the drivetrain rebuild, as well some upgrades, so it's gonna be a lot of fun.
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