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In the old days of IMSA there were two major classes - GTO (2.5L and larger) and GTU (under 2.5L). You would see the GTO cars go ripping by the GTU cars as soon as they hit the straights. In ~1982, I went to an IMSA race at Laguna Seca and sat right at the bottom of the famous Corkscrew section. My view looked pretty much like this video - except when I saw these cars they weren't considered "vintage" race cars and the drivers were all going much harder. We saw quite a few cars go off into the dirt. It was a GREAT day!

 

Back in the Playstation One and Two days, I loved that track on the Gran Turismo games....the corkscrew could make or break your whole lap!

post #1097 of 7862
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Back in the Playstation One and Two days, I loved that track on the Gran Turismo games....the corkscrew could make or break your whole lap!

It still could...... 

post #1098 of 7862
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Hmm - you might want to be careful before you try to one up Ferrari by going to the race track. I'll see your Spoon and raise you LeMans... tongue.gif

Done but it has to be on a touge with the drift king at the wheel :P (yes its FF but he is a beast driver ^^) 

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Real world is quite different than gaming, you start drifting too much on a real track in a real race and you'll be dead. The advantages to a car like the Ferrari is neutral handing and torque... metric ****-tons of torque. You come out of a flat curve at 80 and wind out to 170-190, and you're pulling 3-4Gs the whole way. Then you're hard on the brakes, and your body goes from being smashed into the seat to being pulled towards the windshield, with only your harness keeping you from getting there. While all that time you have to keep heat in the tires so they'll stay sticky enough to allow you to maneuver, heat in the brakes so they'll stop you properly, and air over the wings and spoilers to maintain enough downforce to keep you on the track. It's all very similar to this:



On the other end of the scale, I drove the Isetta home tonight. That little sucker is as fun as a sack full of kittens. I had it up to 50mph, which seemed a lot faster than that, but it just cruised right along. Safety issues aside, that thing could be a serious commuter car. It has plenty of pep from its 25hp 2 cylinder, 4-cycle engine and it handles surprisingly well for what it is. Plus, there's the uniqueness of it. I stopped to fill it up, which took no time at all, and everyone was checking it out. Cute little sucker.


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You know, a thought just occurred to me.  I'll bet that - at the Ferrari complex - they use little carts to get around.  And being Ferrari, you just know some of the employees have gotten together and built themselves a custom cart or two that could rip the face off a normal cart.  I'll bet Mrs. Magick would love to have one of those to put put around the neighborhood in.

post #1101 of 7862
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Oh she's nuts over the Isetta. I slapped a temp tag on it and she practiced with the funky left side gear shift, then we took off. We didn't go too far, just the roads around the house, but she had a ball. Seriously, 45mph in that thing feels like 100 in a regular car. I had it up to 65 on a straight and there was still a decent amount of pedal left, but it was pretty damned scary. I did order some shoulder belts for it, even though it's exempt due to age, because it really is too fast to not have them. The new rules, for both of us, are; no further than 5 miles from home, no interstate, and no faster than the speed limit.
Edited by Magick Man - 11/25/12 at 12:22pm
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Oh she's nuts over the Isetta.

 

LOL, Bet she looks totally normal in it too.  Whereas you would be... a bit Sasquatchian?

 

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I slapped a temp tag on it and she practiced with the funky left side gear shift, then we took off.

 

Hey, gives her a leg up on driving in Britain...

post #1103 of 7862
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Real world is quite different than gaming, you start drifting too much on a real track in a real race and you'll be dead. The advantages to a car like the Ferrari is neutral handing and torque... metric ****-tons of torque. You come out of a flat curve at 80 and wind out to 170-190, and you're pulling 3-4Gs the whole way. Then you're hard on the brakes, and your body goes from being smashed into the seat to being pulled towards the windshield, with only your harness keeping you from getting there. While all that time you have to keep heat in the tires so they'll stay sticky enough to allow you to maneuver, heat in the brakes so they'll stop you properly, and air over the wings and spoilers to maintain enough downforce to keep you on the track. It's all very similar to this:

 

I remember watching that clip on BBC America, so I had to watch it again here. I'm sure he did much better in the car than I would. I'd love a ride around the track as a passenger though.....

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The older gentleman that sold me the HE-60s, which I like very much, is selling me his EC Balancing Act and balanced Grado HP-2s. eek.gif He's getting out of head-fi all-together because his hearing has deteriorated so much, which is sad (he's pushing 75 now). frown.gif

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LOL, Bet she looks totally normal in it too.  Whereas you would be... a bit Sasquatchian?


It's not so bad for me, better than I would have thought, but it is tight with both of us in it. She looks normal in it, though, and it fits her perfectly. Right now she's going crazy with washing and waxing it.
Edited by Magick Man - 11/25/12 at 1:56pm
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That video of RH in the F1 reminds me of the half-day Sprint car driving class I took on a short dirt track. The very first thing they did was strap us into the car (a real 600 HP Sprint Car that had raced the night before on the same track) and have us try to go 5 laps around the track. I was the VERY FIRST driver. I took off, went into the first turn and promptly spun the car off the track. They got me going again, I went into the first turn, and spun it again - but at least the second time I didn't stall the engine and I gathered myself together and kept going.

Then the instructor said - are you all now ready to learn how to drive this car? Hell yeah! Then he took us through the line we should take, the landmarks on the track to use to get on the gas and on the brake, etc. It was COMPLETELY different than anything I had done before. Then we went back out for 15 more laps. 5 laps at low speed just to find our landmarks, 5 laps at moderate speed just trying to actually coordinate the landmarks with the gas & brake, then the last 5 laps we should go for it as hard as we could. I *thought* I was absolutely FLYING through the last 5 laps - I hit my mark, slammed on the brakes, swung left, located my target at the end of the straight and crushed the gas pedal. It was a thing of beauty!

Then I saw the video of my laps. It looked like I was idling around the track - kids on bicycles and grandmas in Ramblers could have passed me. LOL! I didn't care, for those brief minutes, in my mind, I was the greatest driver in the world!! tongue.gif

FYI, if you ever want to have a sh!t-load of fun in the mud, this is the place:
http://www.kruseman.com/Default.aspx
Edited by billybob_jcv - 11/25/12 at 2:55pm
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Fun, fun, ever seen a car with two high-capacity fuel pumps?



For a big monolith of classic muscle the Barracuda handles pretty well, it isn't a modern sports car, but it isn't supposed to be. It's a great cruiser, or even a high-powered tourer. Power steering, AC, cruise control, nice stereo, comfortable seats, and a smooth ride. Now here, here's the money shot:



Look at that slope. The torque numbers were dead-on accurate, but the HP was underrated, to the tune of about 67hp. It's a monster. My mechanic and I took it out and we happened to pull up to a guy in a newer Mustang GT500 (things are everywhere), he gave a signal, and I toasted him by a good 30ft to the next light. We stop and he pulled up with his window down, "WTF is in that?!" "740hp Hemi." "Is it blown?" "Nope, naturally aspirated." "Holy ****." LOL! It actually feels like it's pulling up the front a little. It sounds civilized and idles very smoothly, you really have no idea what could be in there until you give it the beans and the butterfly valves open, then there's a roar like the devil himself is trying to escape. The mechanic thinks he can coax another 50 or more hp out of it, but with larger cams and reworking the heads. It would make it louder at idle and could be too much for the Dana rearend which is only rated at 650lbs of torque. So I'm just going to leave it as is.

Anyway, we get it back to the shop and then take out the Cobra, or we try to take out the Cobra but it's rough and won't idle properly. So we fiddle with the carbs, and after 20 minutes or so he gets it running and we leave. After another quick stop he gets it dialed in correctly and the craziness began. Think the cuda is fast? Pfftt. It's touchy because the Cobra weighs just a little more than a ton, but once you get used to it, it isn't hard to manage. But at all times you have to be aware of the throttle, so you don't spin it around or simply leave all of your rubber on the highway. The ride is a little stiff, but it should be, this is the essence of "sports car". No power steering, no AC, no cruise control, no stereo, it does have a heater, but since there's no top it's almost pointless. However, none of that matters, it's pure driving; easy clutch, short throw shifter, awesome throaty sound (it has mufflers, more or less, but no catalytic converters). The handling is fantastic, with a very direct and connected feel. From the way it drove it's just about bang-on 50-50 weight distribution, no excessive amounts of understeer or oversteer. I expected it would be cramped, but it isn't. The seats are nice, and even better they fully adjust, so I was able to push it all the way back and it was perfect, just right for heel-toe shifting. I didn't get to drive it too long though, it started raining a little and I didn't feel 100% comfortable in it yet (and didn't want to get us or the interior soaked) so I took it back. They did get the EZ-EFI system ordered, and that should be in tomorrow because the distributor had it in stock, so we'll soon see how "easy" it really is.
Edited by Magick Man - 11/27/12 at 12:04am
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Look at that slope. The torque numbers were dead-on accurate, but the HP was underrated, to the tune of about 67hp. It's a monster. My mechanic and I took it out and we happened to pull up to a guy in a newer Mustang GT500 (things are everywhere), he gave a signal, and I toasted him by a good 30ft to the next light. We stop and he pulled up with his window down, "WTF is in that?!" "740hp Hemi." "Is it blown?" "Nope, naturally aspirated." "Holy ****." LOL! It actually feels like it's pulling up the front a little. It sounds civilized and idles very smoothly, you really have no idea what could be in there until you give it the beans and the butterfly valves open, then there's a roar like the devil himself is trying to escape. The mechanic thinks he can coax another 50 or more hp out of it, but with larger cams and reworking the heads. It would make it louder at idle and could be too much for the Dana rearend which is only rated at 650lbs of torque. So I'm just going to leave it as is.
Anyway, we get it back to the shop and then take out the Cobra, or we try to take out the Cobra but it's rough and won't idle properly. So we fiddle with the carbs, and after 20 minutes or so he gets it running and we leave. After another quick stop he gets it dialed in correctly and the craziness began. Think the cuda is fast? Pfftt. It's touchy because the Cobra weighs just a little more than a ton, but once you get used to it, it isn't hard to manage. But at all times you have to be aware of the throttle, so you don't spin it around or simply leave all of your rubber on the highway. The ride is a little stiff, but it should be, this is the essence of "sports car". No power steering, no AC, no cruise control, no stereo, it does have a heater, but since there's no top it's almost pointless. However, none of that matters, it's pure driving; easy clutch, short throw shifter, awesome throaty sound (it has mufflers, more or less, but no catalytic converters). The handling is fantastic, with a very direct and connected feel. From the way it drove it's just about bang-on 50-50 weight distribution, no excessive amounts of understeer or oversteer. I expected it would be cramped, but it isn't. The seats are nice, and even better they fully adjust, so I was able to push it all the way back and it was perfect, just right for heel-toe shifting. I didn't get to drive it too long though, it started raining a little and I didn't feel 100% comfortable in it yet (and didn't want to get us or the interior soaked) so I took it back. They did get the EZ-EFI system ordered, and that should be in tomorrow because the distributor had it in stock, so we'll soon see how "easy" it really is.

You have really got to start posting videos............ 

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That is awesome Magick!! That graph is incredible - especially when you consider that the little bit of nearly vertical slope at the start of the HP curve is the first 200 HP, and the torque during that time goes straight up to 450 ft-lbs! Can you say hole shot? I think you can...

See - American muscle can be fun too!!

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Interesting! Despite its displacement it does seem to like the revs. Seems like a well put together motor to have such a wide powerband.
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After careful thought and consideration, over the course of the past few months, I have come to the conclusion that this is a happy happy fun thread.  I'm glad that there exists such a thread on Head-Fi, and I hereby dedicate the following song to this thread:

 

 

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