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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

SRH-840 does have some similarities to the DJ100. DJ100 is not as warm and has more bass, but less mid-bass. Probably the same amount of treble. Sound clarity with proper amping and burn-in has the sRH-840 beat. Even the SRH-940, but not the KRK KNS-8400.

 

SRH-840 was an old favorite, but couldn't deal with it's comfort.


OK, I came this close today at Best Buy to picking up the DJ100. But now, you are saying the KNS8400 (with proper amping and burn-in) beats the SRH840 and 940 and the DJ100. Now you got me thinking maybe the KNS8400 are the way to go. Still, the old "speakers shoved into your ears" line got me going toward the DJ100. 

 

post #32 of 40
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OK, I came this close today at Best Buy to picking up the DJ100. But now, you are saying the KNS8400 (with proper amping and burn-in) beats the SRH840 and 940 and the DJ100. Now you got me thinking maybe the KNS8400 are the way to go. Still, the old "speakers shoved into your ears" line got me going toward the DJ100. 

 

 

Well, the KRK KNS-8400 is technically better, but not always as fun to listen to. It's very detailed and totally unforgiving. Any bad music sounds very bad. Poorly mastered materials and harsh and fatiguing is not going to sound any better. I would say the DJ100 isn't very forgiving, but more than the KRKs. The DJ100 with a desktop amp/dac is a detail monster IMO. Some may say I'm crazy, but there's very little on the KRKs I can't hear on my DJ100. I haven't found anything.

 

If I had to pick between the two, I'd take DJ100 without any doubt. Even over HD-598 and lots of others. Probably even over the Q701. It's one of those desert island headphones for me I think.

 

I would have bought the DJ100. Best Buy generally doesn't seem to care about returns as long as they're like new. That way if you don't like them you can return them,

 

There is also the KNS-6400 that has more mid-bass than the 8400, but less forward sub-bass and less treble. It's a bit easier on the ears (somewhat) than the 8400. Barely. 8400 doesn't give you a front row like experience like the DJ100, but is still fairly engaging to listen to.

 

I've found both the DJ100 and KRKs do benefit from both an amp and DAC. More so than even the HD-598.

 

Today I was listening to my HD-580 with HD-600 grills and it's signature is similar to my DJ100 but ONLY with the Double Helix wire I have on loan. Of course the DJ100 isn't as warm. There's some electronic music on the "On Strange Tides" CD that sound identical on both headphones. DJ100 just has a way smaller soundstage. I actually dislike the HD-600 without the DH cable. Weird. With stock cable on the HD-600, the DJ100 has better sub-bass IMO. HD-600 is a snore fest for me with stock cable. The DJ100 to me is actually clearer than the HD-600 when it has the stock cable attached. With something else it's a closer match.

 

Just as a warming, some DJ100's can sound bad right out of the box, but that's rare. It's only due to the coating on the driver I guess. There's specific symptoms to look for, but I won't annoy the science guys here.

 


 

 


Edited by tdockweiler - 3/9/12 at 6:31pm
post #33 of 40
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Picked up the DJ100 and all I can say is....yes, yes YES! (Poor Meg Ryan imitation). This is it...this is exactly what my ears wanted. The music is right inside my head...guess I am not a soundstage guy. Guess I am also a cheap date...$79 headphones compared to my HD598. Thanks...sideways is no longer an option. 

post #34 of 40

I honestly think a hifiman headset could work wonders for you, they're extremely musical and sound stage-y (best seats in the hall covered) at their price range ($200 used for HE-300s,and those would run fine with your FiiO E6).

I am a bit of a fan boy of the HE series but they would impress you compared to the other cans you own.

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I honestly think a hifiman headset could work wonders for you, they're extremely musical and sound stage-y (best seats in the hall covered) at their price range ($200 used for HE-300s,and those would run fine with your FiiO E6).

I am a bit of a fan boy of the HE series but they would impress you compared to the other cans you own.



Know a good reputable site to purchase them? 

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Know a good reputable site to purchase them? 



I got mine here from a user in Washington I believe...shipped to Arizona in under a week, flawless with ~10 hours of listening time on them when they arrived, they now have 200+ hours of listening and they're still perfect. If you're REALLY wary of buying from members on here I suggest http://www.amazon.com/HiFiMan-HE-300-Headphones/dp/B00667F7OK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331406814&sr=8-1 because ordering directly from head-direct has had some issues..or so I've heard.

 

 

If you do buy used, obviously buy from a member with some reputation for selling around here, please don't get yourself screwed over.

post #37 of 40
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Originally Posted by Thatleoneguy View Post

Picked up the DJ100 and all I can say is....yes, yes YES! (Poor Meg Ryan imitation). This is it...this is exactly what my ears wanted. The music is right inside my head...guess I am not a soundstage guy. Guess I am also a cheap date...$79 headphones compared to my HD598. Thanks...sideways is no longer an option. 

 

Good to hear you like them!  They'll only get better with more use believe it or not. I'm currently using mine with M50 pads. The only difference is the mids are maybe 1% less forward and there's a tiny bit of more bass and a slightly larger soundstage.

Maybe the impression of more treble, but hard to know for sure. No point in using M50 pads really if you like the stock pads. Even V6 pads fit. I recabled mine, but wish I didn't. Not much of a change at all. They just look uglier and are now dual entry for no reason.

 

I think we'd all be interested in more impressions or a review once you have had them for awhile.

 

BTW I'd also be interested in what amp you've found to sound the best for them. I like them with the E5. I actually do the "bad" thing and don't use a LOD and it sounds better.  frown.gif I guess that's like double amping which is supposedly evil here. I have LODs for my View/Fuze and Ipod Touch though

I can't tell a difference between mini to mini cable and LOD with most portables.

 

 

 

post #38 of 40
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Good to hear you like them!  They'll only get better with more use believe it or not. I'm currently using mine with M50 pads. The only difference is the mids are maybe 1% less forward and there's a tiny bit of more bass and a slightly larger soundstage.

Maybe the impression of more treble, but hard to know for sure. No point in using M50 pads really if you like the stock pads. Even V6 pads fit. I recabled mine, but wish I didn't. Not much of a change at all. They just look uglier and are now dual entry for no reason.

 

I think we'd all be interested in more impressions or a review once you have had them for awhile.

 

BTW I'd also be interested in what amp you've found to sound the best for them. I like them with the E5. I actually do the "bad" thing and don't use a LOD and it sounds better.  frown.gif I guess that's like double amping which is supposedly evil here. I have LODs for my View/Fuze and Ipod Touch though

I can't tell a difference between mini to mini cable and LOD with most portables.

 

 

 

Actually I am using the E11 and sounds alive..I haven't tried the E6 and PA2V2 yet. I am using a Fiio LOD cable. Mahler's symphony #3 is mind-blowing, Joss Stone rocks, Mary-Chapin finally feels like a cozy fire on a cold night! I don't know about writing a review. My ears have been around but I am pretty new to the Head-Fi community. 

 

So is it difficult to switch pads? Never done any modding....a little nervous. 
 

 

post #39 of 40
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Actually I am using the E11 and sounds alive..I haven't tried the E6 and PA2V2 yet. I am using a Fiio LOD cable. Mahler's symphony #3 is mind-blowing, Joss Stone rocks, Mary-Chapin finally feels like a cozy fire on a cold night! I don't know about writing a review. My ears have been around but I am pretty new to the Head-Fi community. 

 

So is it difficult to switch pads? Never done any modding....a little nervous. 
 

 


Yeah the only reason I don't use a LOD cable is that the E5 might not be enough for the DJ100 when just using the LOD (since it bypasses the amp of the Ipod Touch). I can get away with it when using my Total Airhead, but it still likes the extra power.

 

I wouldn't bother with the M50 pads. Not required, but it does increase the comfort a bit. You just pull the stocks pads off. They are held in by a crack going around the edges.

 

To get the new pads on, just hold the edge of the pad with your fingers (against the cups) and work your way around to put the edge of the new pad into the cracks. It takes me now about 20 seconds.

 


Edited by tdockweiler - 3/10/12 at 3:24pm
post #40 of 40
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Second day with the DJ100s...and so far soooo good! Just wondering if rolled cotton underneath will do anything. 

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