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post #991 of 1958
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Originally Posted by Sauntere View Post

 To say that the transducer is the most influential or important part of the audio chain is ridiculous... In order to achieve any where near the the maximum sound quality available the source is the most important. Then the amplification and transducer can be brought up to the same standard to achieve the pinnacle in sound quality..  ie, when the IEM or Headphone is of equal quality to the source you will achieve the best balance. It is stupid to think that your high quality headphones or IEMs can sound their best when fed a sub par signal. 

Yup, garbage in garbage out. The best amps and speakers will only show clearly how lousy your source is.
post #992 of 1958
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Originally Posted by HiFlight View Post


Yuin PK1 and Audeo PFE232 both sound especially good paired with the Tera-Player. Both are very comfortable and can be worn for long periods without fatigue.

 

BTW.  Thanks for the Audeo PF232 recommendation HiFlight - they are suberb (at the top of my collection) and very comfortable..

Thanks to MusicDay too for the supplier recommendation - I made a good saving.


Edited by apmusson - 1/8/13 at 7:26am
post #993 of 1958

why the need to attribute quality to one end? Weak link can be anywhere.

post #994 of 1958

I am not attributing quality to one end only. However if the source is weak it won't matter how good the rest of the chain is, you will always have lower sound quality than what is possible.

post #995 of 1958

Anyone tried Unique Melody Merlin with Tera-Player?
 

post #996 of 1958

Not sure about them Merlins, but I got AS-2's and have no issues with it. They're both quite neutral so its really a lot of fun to have a nice powerhouse of a combination. Hopefully my experience can relieve you of some fears about it being able to handle effectively with a high-sensitivity IEM and the concerns of multiple drivers in an IEM

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Anyone tried Unique Melody Merlin with Tera-Player?

post #997 of 1958
Here is a copy of an email that I received from Mr. Altmann that may be of interest to thread members:


Hi Ron,,

I think the Tera-Player has a special feature that by now, did go unnoticed:

With other players (i.e. ipod), when changing tracks (next command) during
play, sometimes you get a pop-noise, because the music-wave is just hardly
cut, and depending where the wave is, you can get quite a nasty click.

On the Tera-Player I have programmed a ramp-down in order to eliminate any
clicks when changing a track. The ramp-down it is so swift, that you will
not feel any delay, it is just a noiseless change of the track. I think it
may be a unique feature, don't know if other DAPs have that, LOL

Charles
post #998 of 1958
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Originally Posted by Sauntere View Post

I am not attributing quality to one end only. However if the source is weak it won't matter how good the rest of the chain is, you will always have lower sound quality than what is possible.

No doubt but I don't think the tera would sonund great connected to a rock, for most of us anyway.wink_face.gif It doesn't matter where the weak link is. It will limit the other bits. DAPs are definitely limiting but then, most earphones are as well

post #999 of 1958
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Originally Posted by Sauntere View Post

 To say that the transducer is the most influential or important part of the audio chain is ridiculous... In order to achieve any where near the the maximum sound quality available the source is the most important. Then the amplification and transducer can be brought up to the same standard to achieve the pinnacle in sound quality..  ie, when the IEM or Headphone is of equal quality to the source you will achieve the best balance. It is stupid to think that your high quality headphones or IEMs can sound their best when fed a sub par signal.

 

The most noticeable improvement beyond 320kbs in a portable setup will be going from a relatively poor headphone to a very good one! No?  I have had all manner of rigs and the differences from the best to the worst DAP are negligible provided you have a decent bitrate and good headphones.  

post #1000 of 1958
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Originally Posted by flkin View Post


Yup, garbage in garbage out. The best amps and speakers will only show clearly how lousy your source is.

 

But lousy headphones/speakers wont reveal how superb your source is. Two sides of the same coin!

post #1001 of 1958

I didn't knew that we have to click twice play+left arrow to navigate to the next folder.If we click just once the same song will play.

Even so i really enjoy the Tera Player and i found the sound of Korta Pro modified much better and natural then my W4R, strange.lol.

post #1002 of 1958
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Originally Posted by mark_h View Post

 

But lousy headphones/speakers wont reveal how superb your source is. Two sides of the same coin!

 

Not really the same. If you have a poor source with good amp/speakers, there's no chance of good music coming out. Whereas if you have a good source and poor amp/speakers, there still a chance of good music coming out. Granted this was pretty obvious with analogue sources but I still feel the same is true for digital ones.

post #1003 of 1958
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Originally Posted by skamp View Post


Failed ABX results and a lack of successful ABX results, as well as objective measurements.

 

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence - philosophy of science 101. Objective measurements that correlate with what's heard? - let's be hearing of them.

post #1004 of 1958
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Originally Posted by Sapientiam View Post

 

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence - philosophy of science 101. Objective measurements that correlate with what's heard? - let's be hearing of them.


He doesn't trust his ears Sapientiam. You can't reason with someone like that.

post #1005 of 1958
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Originally Posted by flkin View Post

 

Not really the same. If you have a poor source with good amp/speakers, there's no chance of good music coming out. Whereas if you have a good source and poor amp/speakers, there still a chance of good music coming out. Granted this was pretty obvious with analogue sources but I still feel the same is true for digital ones.

 

I don't agree, I have heard some very good sounds coming from low price sources and good speakers and very poor sounds coming from expensive sources with poor speakers! In most of the studios I have the good fortune to lurk around the speakers are often among the most expensive components in the setup; This is not an accident. Also the component manufacturers are very forthcoming about their products, if they are not they are overlooked in favour of those that are. I have grown, through experience very, very suspicious of those that hide information because in the audio world there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to do so. Lee730, if you are referring to myself not trusting my ears, well. they are my living and I trust them implicitly! and so do many others.

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