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I have no problem with why or how you are trying to get measurements. You are quite peaceful and I welcome anyone willing to talk level headed and not call owners names. To a certain extent measurements are useful, but I do not feel they ever currently give the whole view of something. It is taking into account objective and subjective matters, to form an opinion. I recommend you try finding a fellow member that has one and give it a listen. I do not have the equipment to properly do the RMAA tests everyone wants, so I unfortunately cannot help you there. Where are you from?

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Originally Posted by mboerma 

English is not my native language but I'll try to explain the way I look at the hard science, technology and objective measurements (audio technology) vs the emotion of music and the way sounds sounds differently to everyone.

 

Beside enjoying listening to music I'm also an experienced photographer. I you read photography or camera forums you will find similar discussion as the once in this thread. As an example. Leica makes a very, very expensive lens, the Noctilux. Technically it has many shortcomings: light falloff, refraction, etc. but somehow you can create very beautiful photos with them. With special looks. If you look at them technically you will find many "objective" mistakes. So what is more important?

 

BTW, I'm not saying the Tera Player can be compared to the Noctilux for having technical mistakes. I just don't know and don't care. I don't have as well trained ears as I have eyes. I would be interested in looking at the measurements. Not to base an opinion on. Just out of curiosity and to learn from.

 

Have a look at this website to see how scientific cameras are measured these days: http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Ratings But a beautiful photo can be created with any camera.

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Originally Posted by HeadFiend 

You're wrong, the results are linked in the first post.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/648501/blind-test-6-dacs-compared#post_9104456

stv014 got it right with his measurements:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/648827/dac-blind-test-and-difference-extraction#post_9215329

I can live with that if it's true. Test was about differences and a quick listen revealed same as I chose the same order second time through on the same session. I'm OK with the joke on me in a random test like that.  I said at the time it wasn't going to prove anything in absolutes though I shouldn't have teased scuttle with it. I just couldn't help it with how he's been badgering this thread.

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Originally Posted by kenman345 

If the clip is as good as you audibly can get, go use it. Their is more to a device than it's sound and price. So lets just have some fun and assume they are identical in sound.

 

 

 

That simple enough to explain how the Tera Player is better, at least to me, from a design standpoint than the Clip+. Go spend your small amount on a cheaply made player and be happy, why bother those that enjoy the items they buy, even if they are more than 10 times the cost of yours. 

I thought the Tera ws rather than 10 times the cost of the Clip? And again, this is not about "bothering" people who have bought Teras. This is a public forum that is indexed by google, and people thinking of spending money should see both sides of the argument, don't you think?

You underestimate the hard headedness of the population of the Northern UK. Yes, Germany is closer to the UK than to the US - I applaud your mastery of geography. But this about psychology.

Sorry, I participate in a lot of threads. 

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Originally Posted by mboerma 

Kenman345 I own a Tera Player v1. We even exchanged PMs about the Aurisonics pairing with the TP.

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Originally Posted by goodvibes 

To be honest it was more a dig at scuttle than anything else. The way the test was organized didn't really prove much either way. 

It's nice that you confess that you're trying to make this personal, rather than about the substantive issue - thank you.

And the test proved at least two things:

- Firstly, that when blind testing you rate the Clip+ much higher than you believe possible

- Second, when faced the above your reaction is to weasel

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