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Did anyone compare TP with another minimalist SD card player such as SDTrans 384 by any chance?

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634476/thoughts-on-computer-audio

So far majority of them should be sold domestically in Japan and here is a thread with discussions in English

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-source/142562-microsd-memory-card-transport-project.html

Some pictures available here

http://www.chiaki.cc/Transport/sdtrans192.html

http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/hcdry919/7897044.html

http://tackbon.ldblog.jp/archives/52291825.html

Just thinking out loud and wondering what would inspire Charles to work on another "Altmann Peta-Player" with 1-bit/2.8MHz DSD support.

Thanks.

Don't know much about all that you just said there, but I was under the assumption that Charles didnt like DSD. Read over his mother-of-tone pages. Should find it there in the Conversion Techniques section....

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Originally Posted by seeteeyou 

Did anyone compare TP with another minimalist SD card player such as SDTrans 384 by any chance?

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634476/thoughts-on-computer-audio

 

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So far majority of them should be sold domestically in Japan and here is a thread with discussions in English

 

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-source/142562-microsd-memory-card-transport-project.html

 

Some pictures available here

 

http://www.chiaki.cc/Transport/sdtrans192.html

 

http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/hcdry919/7897044.html

 

http://tackbon.ldblog.jp/archives/52291825.html

 

Just thinking out loud and wondering what would inspire Charles to work on another "Altmann Peta-Player" with 1-bit/2.8MHz DSD support.

 

Thanks.

Kenman, you are right :)

I think the best way to play back DSD is to convert it to 176.4 kHz wav.

Almost all of the DSD's start as .wav anyway (in the recording studio).

DSD is a non-format, but that is only my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Nirmalanow 

I wonder if it is like the brainwave biofeedback I did a long time ago, where if I tried to increase the amount of a particular brainwave frequency to get more positive feedback, the amount of feedback would actually decrease. It seemed like simply directing my attention at the feedback signal without "trying" to make anything happen, would actually result gradually in an increase in the desired brainwave pattern.

 

So maybe the best way to win in your competition would be to not try!

Hi Nirmala, 

if I get you right, you mean that the focus on the 'desired output' is very close to the focus on the 'lack of the desired output', and therefore one should just try to be in  a relaxed appreciative state ?

Charles :)

So as I understand it, 1-bit encoding is basically meant for these Sigma-Delta DAC's, yes? So they are using the idea of taking an average in a certain length of time of the 1-bit being 0 or 5 volts and thats the intended output. You say this adds in noise, and that you don't like the sound of DSD audio, but if you convert it to WAV, in a way where you analyze the data as a whole to find it's true intended voltages, could you eliminate some of that noise introduced by this storage method? Or will it still have a similar sound because it was converted from a 1-bit encoding method? I'm kinda curious

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Originally Posted by Chucky-X 

Kenman, you are right :)

 

I think the best way to play back DSD is to convert it to 176.4 kHz wav.

 

Almost all of the DSD's start as .wav anyway (in the recording studio).

 

DSD is a non-format, but that is only my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Chucky-X 

 

Hi Nirmala, 

 

if I get you right, you mean that the focus on the 'desired output' is very close to the focus on the 'lack of the desired output', and therefore one should just try to be in  a relaxed appreciative state ?

 

Charles :)

That sounds about right, but it gets subtle because it did not even work to "try" to not try. When I was hooked up to the brainwave biofeedback, I would often first try everything to affect the feedback signal including trying not to do anything. And nothing worked. So after a while I would get distracted or just give up, and then gradually the amount of positive feedback the system was providing would increase. It seemed that the process was happening outside of my usual conscious mind, and there was simply nothing I could do about it.

However, the feedback worked in the sense that the quantity of the desired brainwave frequency would increase during each session. I was training to boost beta waves, and I also felt that the feedback sessions "woke up" my brain. I was much more productive and able to concentrate all through the day.

Some researchers related this kind of process to sound frequencies also. Everyone's voice print is unique because there are missing frequencies. Some folks feed the missing frequencies back into the body via music using headphones and sound tables (a massage table with speakers or subwoofers) and find a therapeutic effect. Here is one place that seems to be doing something like that: http://www.biowaves.com/Info/WhatIsSound.php

It seems our system benefits when we provide the missing frequencies, and of course listening to music does this in a more random way for everyone. Maybe that is why we enjoy it so much!

Hello! I`m from Russia, Moscow and i especially sign up at this forum, because i really can`t understand why there is no measurements of Tera Player.

Can anybody to do standart RMAA measurements of Tera Player?

I can`t find it at Web and it strange 4 me very much.

I agree with head-fi member Scamp`s opinion and i think that indeed Tera player measurements were made by many people, but in reality measurements was terrible.

So we`ll never see it because to publish such results of RMAA mean that all praise of Tera Player sound was placebo (Price, price, price and made in Germany).

It`s very sadly surmise but i really think so.

Thanks, sorry 4 my bad english.

FALEEV,

Oh dear, why are you fixated on an issue that's been discussed ad naseum in this thread? Reiterating the `measurements are everything' nonsense is patently ridiculous and does your first head-fi post no favors whatsoever. 

Andy. 

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Originally Posted by FALEEV 

Hello! I`m from Russia, Moscow and i especially sign up at this forum, because i really can`t understand why there is no measurements of Tera Player.

Can anybody to do standart RMAA measurements of Tera Player?

I can`t find it at Web and it strange 4 me very much.

I agree with head-fi member Scamp`s opinion and i think that indeed Tera player measurements were made by many people, but in reality measurements was terrible.

So we`ll never see it because to publish such results of RMAA mean that all praise of Tera Player sound was placebo (Price, price, price and made in Germany).

It`s very sadly surmise but i really think so.

 

Thanks, sorry 4 my bad english.

To confirm my version why we have no any measurements of Tera Player i`d like to say:

For example when Iriver AK100 starts on sale so many people have made measurements of AK100.

And nobody feared to publish it. 

So situation with non-availability of any measurements Tera Player is very strange.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english (i`m Russian)

smial1966, why do u allways writes bold text like forum`s moderator?

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Originally Posted by woodcans 

I would really respect a negative opinion of the player from someone who has listened to it and compared it to other device(s), and after such did not like it (and could explain why). Aamof, I invite such a comparison/critique. Because I would like to hear the device they would prefer.

As u know to listen Tera and compare with other devices 1`st of all we need to get it.

But till Tera will be unique device with more than not cheap price this situation with having no measurements will continue until we see measurements of Tera Player.

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Originally Posted by woodcans 

I have owned both the rwak and the Tera. To my ears, I prefer the Tera. And not by a small margin. So from a SQ perspective, you can show me any graph you want my eyes to see. My ears will still not care.

In my opinion u had compare delta-sigma DAC vs Multibit DAC R-2R

it`s imcomparable things initially.