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post #1651 of 1958
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Originally Posted by smial1966 View Post

 

As far as I'm aware 100% of owners who've posted in this thread are extremely happy with the sound of their Tera Players. Enough said? 

 

 

All the naysayers are asking for is a few simple measurements, I really don't see what the problem with that is or understand the resistance to it? Come on Charles publish some graphs, keep us heathens quiet!


Edited by mark_h - 2/15/13 at 12:37pm
post #1652 of 1958
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Originally Posted by kenman345 View Post

 The PortaPro's have gone unchanged since the 80's for a reason.

 

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Originally Posted by mark_h View Post

 

So the first thing you do is change them by modding them?

 

post #1653 of 1958
Some TP owners have sold them after a few weeks, too.
post #1654 of 1958

mark_h,

 

I agree with you and wish that Charles would publish the measurements that you've requested, but hey, propagating the TP enigma is good publicity as evidenced by the post count in this thread!

 

Cheers,

 

Andy.

 

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Originally Posted by mark_h View Post

 

All the naysayers are asking for is a few simple measurements, I really don't see what the problem with that is or understand the resistance to it? Come on Charles publish some graphs, keep us heathens quiet!

post #1655 of 1958

skamp,

 

By my reckoning this `hobby' i.e. the enjoyment of music is no more technical than knowing what sounds good to ones ears when listening to equipment. But if you derive pleasure from delving into the minutiae of technical measurements then that's your prerogative and I don't deride you for it. But what sticks in my gullet, is the implication that Tera Player owners are somehow deluded by marketing spiel or suffering from a mass delusion when we unanimously praise the players sonic ability.

 

Cheers,

 

Andy.

 

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I can't help you if you don't understand that this is a technical hobby, with technical boundaries and rules, with technical causes and effects. Audiophiles call it "synergy". Example: high output impedance makes the TP unsuitable for a whole lot of headphones and IEMs. It's pretty simple, really.

You can laugh all you want, but it only makes you look ignorant, and rather silly. I don't mean to offend you, but since you're mocking me and trying to ridicule me out of ignorance, it had to be said.

Also, writing in bold doesn't make you look superior or important.
post #1656 of 1958

skamp,

 

Yes, one thread contributor had to sell his beloved Tera Player (TP) due to unforeseen financial pressures, but do feel free to inform us of others who've divested themselves of the TP because they thought that it sounded crap!

 

Cheers,

 

Andy.

 

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Some TP owners have sold them after a few weeks, too.
post #1657 of 1958
smial1966: first you ask me to refrain from addressing you again, while calling me names. Then you come back here and try to ridicule me with ignorant non-sense, unprovoked. Then I ask you to be consistent with your demand and refrain from addressing me yourself, yet you continue and you bring up something that hasn't been discussed here in a long while. Are you trying to bait me?

1) Don't provoke me, especially if you don't have a clue what I'm talking about.
2) Don't talk to me, I won't talk to you.
3) Stop writing everything in bold.
4) Learn to quote properly.
5) Try to learn and understand the science that makes this hobby possible, instead of rejecting it like it offends you.

Not necessarily in that order.
post #1658 of 1958

You don't have to....Just skamp does, obviously. and even the E6 would work enough. It's not necessary but whatever, if he's gonna complain about it to owners, then he might as well be offered a solution to the problem he obviously has with his Tera Player.

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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

For the price of this player (and the same applies to the AK100, for that matter) one should not be required to use an additional external amplifier.

post #1659 of 1958
Head-Fi: the place where audiophiles use external amps when they're not needed (and even when they make it worse), and where they don't use an amp precisely in situations where they would actually be helpful.

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post #1660 of 1958
This thread is getting out of hand.

Charles, great job with the Tera Player, I'm looking forward to more awesome audiophile-grade stuff from Altmann smily_headphones1.gif

Everybody else, its been good but this thread is getting worse as it goes on, entertaining but I'm not going to stress myself out trying to explain anymore.

Long live the Tera player!

*unsubscribed*
post #1661 of 1958
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Originally Posted by skamp View Post

3) Stop writing everything in bold.

But I actually appreciate smial's boldface responses. Breaks up the normalcy of the thread

 

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Originally Posted by mark_h View Post

 

All the naysayers are asking for is a few simple measurements, I really don't see what the problem with that is or understand the resistance to it? Come on Charles publish some graphs, keep us heathens quiet!

The problem is someone needs to take the measurements. Skamp would never allow Charles to publish measurements as he's biased and who knows what the results are and if they are accurate. Or at least that's what I imagine he'd say.

 

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Originally Posted by smial1966 View Post

skamp,

 

Yes, one thread contributor had to sell his beloved Tera Player (TP) due to unforeseen financial pressures, but do feel free to inform us of others who've divested themselves of the TP because they thought that it sounded crap!

 

Cheers,

 

Andy.

 

A few users have sold their Tera's rather quickly. Of note, the original owner of the Tera Player I have now. If you look at who that is though, you'd see that they've bought and sold tons of products as soon as they come out. Giving it a month and a half or less of use before selling it off. That can't be helped. But I don't see him on the thread telling people it's crap,in this case, it just merely was not for him.

 

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Head-Fi: the place where audiophiles use external amps when they're not needed (and even when they make it worse), and where they don't use an amp precisely in situations where they would actually be helpful.

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Now you are learning man, the first thing they teach you when you sign up here is, doesn't sound right? AMP it to hell!

post #1662 of 1958
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Originally Posted by kenman345 View Post

Skamp would never allow Charles to publish measurements as he's biased and who knows what the results are and if they are accurate. Or at least that's what I imagine he'd say.

Maybe something was lost in translation here: how could I allow or forbid anyone from publishing anything?

It would be a good thing if Charles did like any honest manufacturer and published all relevant specs, better yet if he published measurements, better still if an independant third-party published their own, and it would be perfect if all the specs and measurements were consistent with each other and reproducible (hello, O2/ODAC).

The Tera Player may well be the only DAP with absolutely ZERO public data, and I've never seen so much resistance from both Charles and TP owners. I'm privileged to have some information about how the Tera Player measures, coming from suicidal_orange, but I'll respect his wishes not to reveal his current findings [*] until he can refine them to a level that is above reproach.

[*] I've allowed myself to mention high output impedance, as Charles more or less confirmed my suspicions, publicly.
Edited by skamp - 2/15/13 at 1:43pm
post #1663 of 1958

skamp,

 

I requested that you refrain from sending me PM correspondence demanding Tera Player measurements. As originally I had intended to provide these in good faith, but a serious illness in my family understandably took precedence over such a trivial matter. 

 

skamp I have never "Called you names" as you put it nor tried to ridicule you, as your technical contributions have informed this thread and any retorts on my part have been well intentioned if sometimes misguided in their delivery. So my apologies if you've taken umbrage at my scatological musings!

 

My browser inputs text like this as normal print.

 

Cheers,

 

Andy.

 

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Originally Posted by skamp View Post

smial1966: first you ask me to refrain from addressing you again, while calling me names. Then you come back here and try to ridicule me with ignorant non-sense, unprovoked. Then I ask you to be consistent with your demand and refrain from addressing me yourself, yet you continue and you bring up something that hasn't been discussed here in a long while. Are you trying to bait me?

1) Don't provoke me, especially if you don't have a clue what I'm talking about.
2) Don't talk to me, I won't talk to you.
3) Stop writing everything in bold.
4) Learn to quote properly.
5) Try to learn and understand the science that makes this hobby possible, instead of rejecting it like it offends you.

Not necessarily in that order.

Edited by smial1966 - 2/15/13 at 2:02pm
post #1664 of 1958

Wow! Such an abundance of negativity from those who haven't listened, such an abundance of positivity from those who have, and such a paucity of positivity from those who haven't listened and such a paucity of negativity from those who have. basshead.gif

post #1665 of 1958
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Originally Posted by woodcans View Post

Wow! Such an abundance of negativity from those who haven't listened, such an abundance of positivity from those who have, and such a paucity of positivity from those who haven't listened and such a paucity of negativity from those who have. basshead.gif


Well, it isn't boring, unless you anticipate it will continue for some time then it could be but maybe not, but maybe it will be but. . . I am boring myself.

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