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Re-Zeros purchased from Mapleshade have been cryogenically treated to significantly reduce edginess from digital music sources.

 

says so right here,

 

http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Hifiman-RE-Zero-In-Ear-Headphones/productinfo/REZERO/

 

 

anyone owned and used both cryo'd and not cryo'd ??

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Originally Posted by what? View Post

Re-Zeros purchased from Mapleshade have been cryogenically treated to significantly reduce edginess from digital music sources.

 

says so right here,

 

http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Hifiman-RE-Zero-In-Ear-Headphones/productinfo/REZERO/

 

 

anyone owned and used both cryo'd and not cryo'd ??

 

lol what a bunch of horse ****. i laughed out loud a couple of times from that description. the kicker is the "non-refundable item" bit at the end.
 

 

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^ The same source said:

 

 

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(RE-Zeros) ...sound more delicate, truthful and revealing than Sennheiser HD800s, Grado 1000s or Beyerdynamic T1s. And, for plane or train travel, the RE-Zeros isolate far, far better. 

 

Woah! And people use HD800, GS/PS1000 and T1s on planes! I'm so buying this! What a great bargain! eek.gif

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Perhaps they could cryogenically freeze their PR department to significantly reduce customer edginess due to BS claims.

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More audiophile hoo-doo crap that occupies a lot of the top end of the consumer market.

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The hell does "cryogenic treatment" even mean in the context of an IEM? Frozen in the year 1999 and defrosted in 3000, then brought back to 2012?

 

Oh and thunderous bass from a RE-Zero?

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The hell does "cryogenic treatment" even mean in the context of an IEM? Frozen in the year 1999 and defrosted in 3000, then brought back to 2012?

 

Oh and thunderous bass from a RE-Zero?



You know I even doubt they even put it through any such facility. For God's sake cryogenically freezing something will cost an assload more than the 99USD they want for those iems. Won't it destroy the iems anyways (we aren't talking about a home freezer here).

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Perhaps they could cryogenically freeze their PR department to significantly reduce customer edginess due to BS claims.

Ahahaha ! What a story Mark.
 

 

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Woah! And people use HD800, GS/PS1000 and T1s on planes! I'm so buying this! What a great bargain! eek.gif

 

 

if some guy is very familiar with the sound/signature of a particular headphone, and he finds another headphone/iem that has very similar sound, whats so hard to believe? *except the price*

 

 

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More audiophile hoo-doo crap that occupies a lot of the top end of the consumer market.


 

not really, its only $100.


 

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You know I even doubt they even put it through any such facility. For God's sake cryogenically freezing something will cost an assload more than the 99USD they want for those iems. Won't it destroy the iems anyways (we aren't talking about a home freezer here).


i think it might be as simple as putting them in a freezer for a few days?? (or the right temperature for the right time and then warming them up in the right way)

 

 

 

if the zeros are good, very good, but the highs are a bit too much and mapleshade have found a simple way to tame them....??

 

mapleshade are very well respected by many, i cant see them risking being 'called out' over $100 iems

 

 

 

 

 



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lol what a bunch of horse ****. i laughed out loud a couple of times from that description. the kicker is the "non-refundable item" bit at the end.
 

 


lots of companies wont refund a product that has been modified, its not an unusual term of service.

 


Edited by what? - 3/6/12 at 7:15am
post #10 of 17
I'm going to stick my T1s outside for a few days (-17C here today) so I can enjoy them without having Re-Zero envy.

I hope the squirrels don't try them on, they always leave little surprises in the cups.
post #11 of 17
lets all stick our bright headphones in the freezer, then in a microwave (warning may destroy headphones due to electromagnetic fields) to warm them up wink.gif may take the edge off the highs!

Maybe different temperatures affect different frequencies?

I did read a thread where someones earbuds got better after going through the washing machine.
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Thinking about it, the freezing and defrosting is the only suggestion that makes any sense in the "cryogenic" context; even then it is not "cryogenically" frozen. Again, trying to speculate on the theory behind the freezing, I'm assuming the contraction and expansion caused to the driver by freezing and defrosting is supposed to burn in the phones without actually putting them through the burn in process?

 

Anyways, I'm still to hear of any manufacturer to use this "technique" on their IEMs, so until Mapleshade can provide any information on their experiment, I'm skeptical.

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While the benefits of deep-freezing some metals have been shown, the same cannot be said for all materials.

 

Many plastics become extremely brittle at very low temperatures, and materials like paper or wood will simply suffer damages if they contain any trace of water upon freezing (which can happen with any porous material).

 

And even for metals, several metals can have different degrees of contraction/expansion, so caution should apply when deep-freezing small items made of several metals because things could disassemble or get deformed upon freezing/heating.

 

Overall, the idea of deep-freezing whole IEMs is a bit frightening. For cables only, why not.

And to do that with anything containing a dynamic driver is even worse given the used materials...

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i spent 20 minutes on the phone with the owner of mapleshade today, he has a long history of recording and headphone use.He told me the differences between the stock and cryo'd zeros is not night and day, but the sound is 'much better' then stock,

 

and yes, he even mentioned that the zeros held their own against his $2000 staxs , 

 

he has built a business/life around recording and hearing the differences.

 

i know when im presented with internet 'reasoning' and a phone conversation with a long time well respected recording engineer, 

 

which information/whos ears i trust.

 

my guess is, if you really want something special, for $100, get the cryo'd zeros.... thats what im going to do.......

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