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post #151 of 300

Can't tell if serious.

 

I personally think wooden headphones look like crap (that so many headfiers seem to like) - you can put them on as much boobs as you like but they'll still look like crap to me.
 

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Originally Posted by rhythmdevils View Post

Liking the aesthetic of the Beats has nothing to do with aesthetics, you've been programmed to like how they look through a carefully crafted propaganda campaign, mostly by associating them with other known and understood objects like boobs, money, status, power etc.  When people look at Beats, a million images of these things instantly come to mind, often without much awareness.  You don't like the way the Beats look, you like associating yourself with these things and this carefully crafted image.  No other headphone has that image because no one has told you how to look at other headphones, or what to think when you look at them.  Most other headphones are just headphones, and are much more up to the individual as to how they are perceived.   Which also means you have to decide for yourself what you think of the way they look.  They don't come with that "seal of approval" which assures you of how you will be perceived when you wear them and makes them a safe purchase because in the end, it says nothing about who you really are.  You're just another idiot wearing Beats. 



 

post #152 of 300
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Originally Posted by GigaFi View Post

Can't tell if serious.

 

I personally think wooden headphones look like crap (that so many headfiers seem to like) - you can put them on as much boobs as you like but they'll still look like crap to me.
 



 

 

RD is talking about more than just aesthetics and style - he was talking about what they represent in society and what people associate them with without necessarily being aware (eg. status, fast cars, etc.). Nicely stated btw, RD. I think you nailed it on the head, especially when you mentioned how these people see other headphones as just headphones.

 

FWIW I'm not a big fan of the way wooden headphones look either, although I can't say they look like crap. In comparison, Beats looks like toys that will fall apart at any minute. The only thing they have down is comfort.

 

 

post #153 of 300

So I guess the consensus is that not too many Head-Fiers respect Beats.

 

Well, I don't either...but just think about a future generation of headphone users who will upgrade to other brands. The current boom in Beats suggests a rosy future for Sony, Sennheiser, AKG, and others. Once the Beats crack apart, or musical tastes change, Head-Fi is going to be a busy place.

post #154 of 300
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Originally Posted by GigaFi View Post

Can't tell if serious.

 

I personally think wooden headphones look like crap (that so many headfiers seem to like) - you can put them on as much boobs as you like but they'll still look like crap to me.
 



 


Then you have no idea how manipulated you are all day, every day.  It's not just Beats, it's everywhere.  The artwork you see all around you in our culture is almost all corporate propaganda.  The only way for it not to effect you is if you understand how it works.  Unless you live in a cave in the woods, which clearly you do not since you are on head-fi. 

 

post #155 of 300

Lol, you are funny rhythmdevils . . . I've seen on several threads that you give these wise guy speeches . . . I know you could be young but I picture you as an old wise man . . . are you some sort of professor or something?

post #156 of 300
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Originally Posted by GigaFi View Post

Can't tell if serious.

 

I personally think wooden headphones look like crap (that so many headfiers seem to like) - you can put them on as much boobs as you like but they'll still look like crap to me.
 



 


How they look is at the very bottom of my concerns.

 

Perhaps that is one of the few advantages of getting old.  Just the same--looking like everyone else in your pier group just to be cool (groovy?) or to fit in didn't impress me in the 60's or 70's either.

 

post #157 of 300
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Originally Posted by rhythmdevils View Post


Then you have no idea how manipulated you are all day, every day.  It's not just Beats, it's everywhere.  The artwork you see all around you in our culture is almost all corporate propaganda.  The only way for it not to effect you is if you understand how it works.  Unless you live in a cave in the woods, which clearly you do not since you are on head-fi. 

 


It's easy--resist!  My personal filter has been well in place since at least the mid-60's.  What you seem to dislike so much can, in fact, be very entertaining.  By the way--don't forget about government propaganda, foreign dictator propaganda, artist propaganda, union propaganda and political propaganda--both from the guys you like and those you don't.  And the beat goes on...

 

post #158 of 300

So you're saying this applies to pretty EVERYTHING so how is the problem Beats specific? I guess we're all idiots for wearing X or driving X or eating X, etc.

 

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Originally Posted by rhythmdevils View Post


Then you have no idea how manipulated you are all day, every day.  It's not just Beats, it's everywhere.  The artwork you see all around you in our culture is almost all corporate propaganda.  The only way for it not to effect you is if you understand how it works.  Unless you live in a cave in the woods, which clearly you do not since you are on head-fi. 

 



 

post #159 of 300
Beats are a prime example of marketing BS and raping people's wallets with their poor quality and jacked up price tag. Not everyone is an idiot just because they wear x or drive y but wearing Beats is like having a huge blatant stamp on your forehead that you really haven't done any research regarding headphones and have bought then solely because of the hype/marketing/propaganda whatever you want to call it.
post #160 of 300

Regardless of the marketing, I still believe a majority of the Beats buyers buy them for looks.

 

For arguments sake, let's just say a pair of HD800s were selling for the EXACT same price as a pair of Beat's Studios and was given the exact same marketing budget but still sounds 1000x better. Do you think the Sennheisers would outsell the Beats?

 

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Beats are a prime example of marketing BS and raping people's wallets with their poor quality and jacked up price tag. Not everyone is an idiot just because they wear x or drive y but wearing Beats is like having a huge blatant stamp on your forehead that you really haven't done any research regarding headphones and have bought then solely because of the hype/marketing/propaganda whatever you want to call it.


 

post #161 of 300
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Originally Posted by GigaFi View Post

Regardless of the marketing, I still believe a majority of the Beats buyers buy them for looks.

 

For arguments sake, let's just say a pair of HD800s were selling for the EXACT same price as a pair of Beat's Studios and was given the exact same marketing budget but still sounds 1000x better. Do you think the Sennheisers would outsell the Beats?

 



 


I don't think the hd800 is a good example because they're both made for completely different uses... hd800 is open back and needs an amp and whatnot. General consumers won't want t o buy an amp and only be able to use their only pair at home.
But I understand what you mean.
post #162 of 300
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Originally Posted by Vitamin B Pill View Post

Not for the headphones themselves, but for bringing people to soundophilia? It can have a trickle down effect in my opinion.

 

I imagine a lot of people who have bought beats have gone on to buy other headphones to discover better quality headphones.



I am going to be honest i am glad i wasted my money on beats as they were a gateway to the wonderful world of head fi and real headphones!


However I still by know means respect these over marketed and over hyped poor performing headphones....
Edited by Swimsonny - 3/25/12 at 11:00am
post #163 of 300

The majority of the people who buy these are just purchasing an image. It's a social fad. Hip hop was originally a form of expression for those who survived the harsh conditions of inner city life. It then mutated into a vehicle for those seeking to portray a rebellious image regardless of the realities of their daily lives. And now it's pretty much sheep fodder for the masses. And that's what the beats are. They are for those trying to live the hip hop lifestyle. 

post #164 of 300

Funny to see all the others that found their way to higher end equipment from the beats. I was the same way. For years I had the skullcandy iems, but one day I decided it was time for an upgrade. That's where the beats came in. I saw these things in stores and thought...man...these must be a top of the line product lol.

 

Though being the oddball that I am...I spent a good 60+ hours researching before I made a purchase. And I'm glad I did, otherwise I probably would have dropped some money on the beats. I don't think your average person takes the time to research though. I think they're more about what they hear by word of mouth, by their peers, by the employees at Radio Shack and Best Buy, etc. And that's as far as they go. And if I had that limited perspective of the average consumer, I would probably find the beats to be the best thing on the market too.

post #165 of 300


 

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Originally Posted by rhythmdevils View Post

Liking the aesthetic of the Beats has nothing to do with aesthetics, you've been programmed to like how they look through a carefully crafted propaganda campaign, mostly by associating them with other known and understood objects like boobs, money, status, power etc.  When people look at Beats, a million images of these things instantly come to mind, often without much awareness.  You don't like the way the Beats look, you like associating yourself with these things and this carefully crafted image.  No other headphone has that image because no one has told you how to look at other headphones, or what to think when you look at them.  Most other headphones are just headphones, and are much more up to the individual as to how they are perceived.   Which also means you have to decide for yourself what you think of the way they look.  They don't come with that "seal of approval" which assures you of how you will be perceived when you wear them and makes them a safe purchase because in the end, it says nothing about who you really are.  You're just another idiot wearing Beats. 


Eh...prior to several weeks ago I knew nothing about the beats. I don't pay attention to the media so I've never seen them in the media before. I had never noticed them at school either.

 

And I thought they were very nice looking.

 

Just sayin'

 

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