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Here, the HD 558 are very expensive, I play a bit of all: Battlefiel 3, Batman Arkham City, Skyrim, Alan Wake.
 

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The SRH840's don't have a soundstage that's at all good for videogames, but if you want something around that price (kinda) I'd say try hard to find either

 

Sennheiser 558's (if you get these do the 555 foam mod) or DT 770 Pro-80's. What type of games do you play?



 

post #32 of 39

Jazh, do you have any Philips headphones available in your area? They are cheap and goooood.

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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this before. I have NOT heard the AD700s, but from everything I've read, they have NO bass. Not just a little bass, NO bass. If I'm gaming and I fire a gun I want it to SOUND like a gun. I had some K701s that had great positioning, like the AD700s, but they also had no bass, and for me that made them useless for gaming, if you care about immersion, that is.


For the record - I'm what you would call a 'neutral-head' - I prefer a relatively flat signature (as opposed to V-shaped) - with nothing particularly emphasised.  A lot of the comments on AD700 with 'no bass' are often from bass-heads, and then parroted by people who have never heard them.  Withour fully quantifying what your listening preferences are, you run the risk of giving the wrong impression to potential buyers .......
 

Let's look at OP's opening line ....

 

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Hi from Venezuela, I looking for a headphones for gaming, must be comfortable, reliable, and off course with a good balanced sound.

 

And here's the problem - like everything on this site, sound is very much subjective.  I owned the AD700 for quite a while, and enjoyed them - especially for gaming - and they DO have bass.  It's on the light of the spectrum, and it doesn't extend very low - but it's there.  They're not what I would call balanced - they're very much tilted toward the uper mids and highs - but they are very comfortable, and have a great sound-stage which is particularly good for tracking the opposition in FPS games (if coupled with dolbyhp or cmss).

 

The secret with FPS is getting a good match between immersion and tracking ability - but it depends how much immersion you want.  The more bassy the headphone, the less you tend to hear the finer details in my experience.

 

OP - if you are looking for comfortable cans with gaming the only target - I'd still consider the AD700.  Bang for buck it is a really good headphone, and there is a reason that it is recommended by a lot of people specifically for gaming.  I never found the immersion anaemic when plaing FPS (bear in mind I don't like overblown bass) - and I do think it is a matter of getting used to the sound signature.  If you compare it to headphones with more articulate and deeper bass, yes - you will find them very bass light.  But if you're not comparing, you'll likley find that your ears will adjust to the sonic signature of the AD700 and you'll get used to the bass the AD700 does have.

 

Depending on your budget - if you are looking for a really good mix of both tracking and immersion, I can recommend the Beyer DT880s. They were great cans for gaming - and are very balanced.

 

Would recommend you also read the front page of this thread (link below) - it is a fantastic resource for gaming audio gear.  If you post specific questions in that thread MLE (the OP for the thread) is a great help - and has personally heard a lot of headphones specifically for gaming.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-w-dolby-headphone-updated-2-19-2012-petition-added

 

In the front page - he ranks a lot of the headphones for both competitive and fun factor.  This should be a great help for you.

post #34 of 39

I've had the Sennheiser HD 280 Pro--decent bass, especially modded (very simple mod)--but the sound is a little muddy, not so great for soundstage, but not terrible either.

I currently have the SR850s and they are better than the 280 pros. Not high end but acceptable.

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For the record - I'm what you would call a 'neutral-head' - I prefer a relatively flat signature (as opposed to V-shaped) - with nothing particularly emphasised.  A lot of the comments on AD700 with 'no bass' are often from bass-heads, and then parroted by people who have never heard them.  Withour fully quantifying what your listening preferences are, you run the risk of giving the wrong impression to potential buyers .......
 

 

It's possible, especially since I have never heard the AD700s. But the K701s, which I have heard, have the same reputation for excellent soundstage/positioning. People kept telling me how great they were for gaming and when I went and bought a pair, I was very, very disappointed at how flat and empty they sounded. I wasn't a basshead, at least not then, but the lack of low end just left a giant hole in the overall sound field for me. I could see the same thing happening with the AD700s, unless, I'm wrong, and they DO have decent bass ... but from what I've read, I'm guessing I'm not wrong.

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It's possible, especially since I have never heard the AD700s. But the K701s, which I have heard, have the same reputation for excellent soundstage/positioning. People kept telling me how great they were for gaming and when I went and bought a pair, I was very, very disappointed at how flat and empty they sounded. I wasn't a basshead, at least not then, but the lack of low end just left a giant hole in the overall sound field for me. I could see the same thing happening with the AD700s, unless, I'm wrong, and they DO have decent bass ... but from what I've read, I'm guessing I'm not wrong.


They are bass light - yes - but I get a bit peeved by comments saying they have no bass.  And it's important to set a base-line (pardon the pun).  I know Malveaux dislikes the AD700, thinks it's over-rated for gaming, and regards it as being extremely bass light.  But he also really enjoys bass impact and bassy cans.  Once you have a base-line, you can put things in perspective.

 

I haven't heard the K701 - so I can't comment on the comparison.
 

I'm not saying the AD700 are ideal - but it's important to establish first what is more important to OP with regards to fun factor or competitiveness (detailed tracking).

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They are bass light - yes - but I get a bit peeved by comments saying they have no bass.  And it's important to set a base-line (pardon the pun).  I know Malveaux dislikes the AD700, thinks it's over-rated for gaming, and regards it as being extremely bass light.  But he also really enjoys bass impact and bassy cans.  Once you have a base-line, you can put things in perspective.

 

I haven't heard the K701 - so I can't comment on the comparison.
 

I'm not saying the AD700 are ideal - but it's important to establish first what is more important to OP with regards to fun factor or competitiveness (detailed tracking).

 

Fair enough. Can't argue with anything you said. Maybe I shouldn't have used the words "no bass." Your term, "bass light," serves as sufficient warning that some listeners may find issues on the low end, depending on their tastes  ...

 

As for the "base-line" concept, well, that's always a problem with a (primarily) subjective experience like listening to headphones ... the best you could do, IMO is to have a common point of reference, and go from there. If you have heard headphone A, and I have heard headphone A, then I can judge your description of how the bass from headphone A sounds based on my own experience of hearing that sound. So when you compare headphone A to headphone B, I can take into consideration how close your assessment of headphone A was to mine, and apply that to your assessment of headphone B ... other than that, I have no idea how to come up with any kind of "objective" base-line from which to start.
 

 

post #38 of 39
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As for the "base-line" concept, well, that's always a problem with a (primarily) subjective experience like listening to headphones ... the best you could do, IMO is to have a common point of reference, and go from there. If you have heard headphone A, and I have heard headphone A, then I can judge your description of how the bass from headphone A sounds based on my own experience of hearing that sound. So when you compare headphone A to headphone B, I can take into consideration how close your assessment of headphone A was to mine, and apply that to your assessment of headphone B ... other than that, I have no idea how to come up with any kind of "objective" base-line from which to start.


Agree - nice way of putting it.  Now we just need to hear from OP regarding what headphones he has heard, and what he liked / didn't like about them - then we have our base-line.

post #39 of 39
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In-ear and cheap models... 
 

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Jazh, do you have any Philips headphones available in your area? They are cheap and goooood.



 

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