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post #1 of 20
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Hi guys,

I''m in a real debate with myself this time and would appreciate some help.

I'm about to upgrade myself with a new set of IEM's but I can't decide which should it be.

I've read great reviews both about the Atrio and the Ultimate Ears. The Atrio, as I understand, are more bassy whereas the Ultimate Ears are more clear. I listen mainly to Jazz, rock, alternative, grunge and classical music and would like to hear your advice on which pair should I get and why. What are the pro's and con's of each set and how do the compare to each other? (and in what properties one beats the other).

Thank you very much, hope you can help me decide!

 

post #2 of 20

I have owned both and there is a little give and take with both. For me the cons of the Triple.Fi were fit problems and a very strong vacuum pressure. The sound was excellent out of the Sony dap but not on Flat. They are very clear if you Eq them and provide a wider soundstage, presentation and realism.

 

The Atrios are super comfortable with the right tips. After you find the right tips, you can't feel them. The sub bass is deep and physical. The cons on the Atrio's for me are the closed soundstage with a very limited instrument separation. The Atrio's have better mids and vocals sound lovely and to me more real than the Triple.Fi. The Triple.Fi are more "fun" if you like to hear each instrument presented individually and clear.

 

Do you know, for example, how, you listen to a song on speakers, and then you put on headphones and you can hear instruments and sounds move left and right and up and down? Well, that effect is very limited on the Atrios so they are less fun if you enjoy soundstage and separation. The fit an finish on the Triple-Fi is of a nicer quality and the Atrio's fit and finish look more bland.


Edited by eat2na - 2/27/12 at 4:36pm
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I have owned both and there is a little give and take with both. For me the cons of the Triple.Fi were fit problems and a very strong vacuum pressure. The sound was excellent out of the Sony dap but not on Flat. They are very clear if you Eq them and provide a wider soundstage, presentation and realism.

 

The Atrios are super comfortable with the right tips. After you find the right tips, you can't feel them. The sub bass is deep and physical. The cons on the Atrio's for me are the closed soundstage with a very limited instrument separation. The Atrio's have better mids and vocals sound lovely and to me more real than the Triple.Fi. The Triple.Fi are more "fun" if you like to hear each instrument presented individually and clear.

 

Do you know, for example, how, you listen to a song on speakers, and then you put on headphones and you can hear instruments and sounds move left and right and up and down? Well, that effect is very limited on the Atrios so they are less fun if you enjoy soundstage and separation. The fit an finish on the Triple-Fi is of a nicer quality and the Atrio's fit and finish look more bland.



Awesome reviews. Very helpful.

post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by eat2na View Post

I have owned both and there is a little give and take with both. For me the cons of the Triple.Fi were fit problems and a very strong vacuum pressure. The sound was excellent out of the Sony dap but not on Flat. They are very clear if you Eq them and provide a wider soundstage, presentation and realism.

 

The Atrios are super comfortable with the right tips. After you find the right tips, you can't feel them. The sub bass is deep and physical. The cons on the Atrio's for me are the closed soundstage with a very limited instrument separation. The Atrio's have better mids and vocals sound lovely and to me more real than the Triple.Fi. The Triple.Fi are more "fun" if you like to hear each instrument presented individually and clear.

 

Do you know, for example, how, you listen to a song on speakers, and then you put on headphones and you can hear instruments and sounds move left and right and up and down? Well, that effect is very limited on the Atrios so they are less fun if you enjoy soundstage and separation. The fit an finish on the Triple-Fi is of a nicer quality and the Atrio's fit and finish look more bland.


Indeed an awesome review! But if you don't mind I'll investigate a bit further :)

I think the fit thing may be more individual because it depends on different physical ear structure, whereas on sound properties (which are generally individual things too), we can try to talk in more general and objective terms.

Sound quality is the most important factor for me. I love a clear and accurate sound, tool separation and a nice deep bass. To give a bit of a reference in the world of speakers - I own the Yamaha H80 monitors and love their sound! I know sound signature of IEM's and speakers is different but still, I guess every bit of information could help.

BTW, if you have any suggestions regarding other IEM models that might fit my wills, my budget is not more than 200$ and I've already stated the things which are important to me - so please feel free.

Thanks you very much guys! you're great...

 

post #5 of 20

With those genres I'd go with TF10.

post #6 of 20
Thread Starter 

Can you elaborate on 'why' please?

post #7 of 20

Because of triple's clarity & soundstage. Although, they maybe not so great for rock, because of triple's recessed mids. Triples are so fun to listen, they are just awesome earphones for under 200$.


Edited by nipit - 2/27/12 at 11:23pm
post #8 of 20

Check out the top tier IEM chart on the forum. The atrio's are not even mentioned. Having owned the TF10 ... exactly what nipit said ... soundstage and clarity. The impact of the bass given the source you use will rattle your eyeballs lol.

post #9 of 20
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My source is Cowon J3, Is it good enough?

post #10 of 20
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My source is Cowon J3, Is it good enough?



The J3 is a player i haven't owned but a lot of people here have owned it and loved it, not sure how to answer that. at the time i had my TF10 i was using a sansa fuze/LOD/P51-Mustang and it was pretty sick. To give you an idea of just using a player on its own , straight out of the Fuze the bass had the same impact but not eyeball jaring, but still insane. if my memory serves me right ( now dont hold me to this) majority preferred the J3 to the fuse SQ wise. Or it could of just been a prefference thing??? I don't think you'll be dissapointed in the combo= J3/TF10.

 

post #11 of 20
Thread Starter 

Thank you so much guys! You've been very helpful. I think I'll go on the TF10.

I'll let you know how it is..

Thanks again!

post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 

By the way, I see in E-bay and Amazon the TF10 regular model (around 170$, which I was initially talking about) and pro model (300$, which is too expensive for me). I have two question on the matter:

1. Your recommendations were regarding the regular model of TF10, right? 'cause the pro model is a bit too expensive for me :)

2. What's the difference between them? Is it relevant for me?

Thanks.

post #13 of 20

There is only one difference between them is that pro model has a mic for iphone/android phone use. But you can also buy a cable for ~30$ from logitech and you will have a pro model by that :). So there is basicly no difference between them, only cable is a little bit different.

post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by nipit View Post

There is only one difference between them is that pro model has a mic for iphone/android phone use. But you can also buy a cable for ~30$ from logitech and you will have a pro model by that :). So there is basicly no difference between them, only cable is a little bit different.



Sorry but NO..... Theirs no differrence ....TF10 is the TF10... the VI cable is just an option.

 

post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by zg1984 View Post

By the way, I see in E-bay and Amazon the TF10 regular model (around 170$, which I was initially talking about) and pro model (300$, which is too expensive for me). I have two question on the matter:

1. Your recommendations were regarding the regular model of TF10, right? 'cause the pro model is a bit too expensive for me :)

2. What's the difference between them? Is it relevant for me?

Thanks.



Sales tactics!!! they make you think there's is something special by adding the "PRO" to it. Theirs a seller on ebay that has them for 129 , keep searching and you will find him.

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