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post #631 of 684
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Originally Posted by NeilPeart View Post
 

I still appreciate my DT250-250 - they are a part of my home-studio sealed can rotation along with the AKG K271S and MrSpeakers MadDog.  They are not perfect (that damn proprietary cable connection has caused me problems), but they are comfortable and have sound quality that scales higher than many closed cans.  I would rank the sealed headphones in my current collection like so:

 

T50RP MadDog Balanced (sound incredible when driven via the Schiit Mjolnir)

AH-D7000 (sounds great with most gear, easy to drive - my gaming cans)

K271S/DT250-250 (they are tied overall and have different strengths)

ATH-W11JPN

SRH840

HD25 Amperior

ATH-W11R

SRH940

SRH440

K81DJ

T50RP (stock)

 

What is striking to me is how terrible the stock T50RP sounds (to me) and how great the MadDog sounds in comparison.  It amazes me how much a driver can scale with improved pads and other tweaks.  Also, there is a difference between the 80 and 250ohm varieties of the DT250; I prefer the 250ohm version due to improved bass control and treble smoothness but they are harder to drive.

 

I was impressed reading your rankings. And then I re-read it and realized it was just your "sealed" headphones rankings. I then looked at your profile, and your "current" list of headphones, and then your list of "previously owned" headphones. It was at that point that my head simply exploded. Wow!

 

Anyway, I am looking forward to getting an excellent pair of modded T50RP's. So based on your impressions you never know, they might even make it to the top of my sealed headphone rankings lol!

post #632 of 684
Hey All!

I am currently seeking out a pair of closed headphones that would compliment the DT880's that I have now and enjoy through my Little Dot MK IV tube amplifier.

Would the DT250 250 ohm version be such the thing I am looking for? Is the isolation and build quality good on these?

I am trying to keep the price in the $200 range which makes the choice harder. I was also pondering the DT770 250 ohm as well but thinking the bass might possibly be a bit too much.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be great. I would like to keep a high impedance but I do have a 1/8 to 1/4 100 ohm impedance adapter if required.

Thanks!
post #633 of 684
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

Hey All!

I am currently seeking out a pair of closed headphones that would compliment the DT880's that I have now and enjoy through my Little Dot MK IV tube amplifier.

Would the DT250 250 ohm version be such the thing I am looking for? Is the isolation and build quality good on these?

I am trying to keep the price in the $200 range which makes the choice harder. I was also pondering the DT770 250 ohm as well but thinking the bass might possibly be a bit too much.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be great. I would like to keep a high impedance but I do have a 1/8 to 1/4 100 ohm impedance adapter if required.

Thanks!

It would be a perfect compliment for DT880. DT250 is on the warm and fun sounding side with forward mids and not too much but punchy bass, natural highs. 

The only down side compared to DT770 i think is going to be the sound stage, but it is satisfactory to me even not as wide. 

At first, if you come from DT880, DT250 will sound a little dark but after a while when you adapt to it, it is going to be fine. There are still details, not pronounced as DT880 but more natural. 

post #634 of 684
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Originally Posted by dahoo View Post
 

It would be a perfect compliment for DT880. DT250 is on the warm and fun sounding side with forward mids and not too much but punchy bass, natural highs. 

The only down side compared to DT770 i think is going to be the sound stage, but it is satisfactory to me even not as wide. 

At first, if you come from DT880, DT250 will sound a little dark but after a while when you adapt to it, it is going to be fine. There are still details, not pronounced as DT880 but more natural. 


Thanks dahoo a little darker would be just fine, I am still undecided so I'll have to do a little more research but it is leaning towards the DT250 at the moment.

:beerchug:

post #635 of 684

Just got a pair of DT250-250's today (purchased new from the For Sale forums). I'm just floored - simply floored - by their sound. They sound damn near as good as my HD580's (with 600 grills and aftermarket cable). Looks like my Shure 840's will be going up for sale soon.

 

I do have a problem with them though: I bought them to use as a portable over-ear phone...but dear god that cable. Does anyone know a place/person that will make custom cables for the DT250-250, or that does already? I could really use a 1.2-1.5 meter-ish straight cable instead of this jumbo coiled cable for on the go. 

 

This brings me to my last thing, a question for the DT250-250 owners on this thread. My primary PMP that I use is a Galaxy Note 2 running a custom kernel that gives direct hardware-level DAC (WM1811) and amp control. Thus far, the phone has been fine driving any headphone I've had on hand. But, my poor smartphone ;_; It simply can't drive them to adequate volume levels.

 

So what PMP's do you use with your DT250-250? If you use a smartphone, how do you circumvent how difficult they are to drive? 

post #636 of 684
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Originally Posted by AustinValentine View Post

 

I do have a problem with them though: I bought them to use as a portable over-ear phone...but dear god that cable. Does anyone know a place/person that will make custom cables for the DT250-250, or that does already? I could really use a 1.2-1.5 meter-ish straight cable instead of this jumbo coiled cable for on the go. 

 

This brings me to my last thing, a question for the DT250-250 owners on this thread. My primary PMP that I use is a Galaxy Note 2 running a custom kernel that gives direct hardware-level DAC (WM1811) and amp control. Thus far, the phone has been fine driving any headphone I've had on hand. But, my poor smartphone ;_; It simply can't drive them to adequate volume levels.

 

So what PMP's do you use with your DT250-250? If you use a smartphone, how do you circumvent how difficult they are to drive? 

 

Cable: I also tried to find a less bulky cable for portable use and making my office desk less messy. First, I found the 1.5 straight cable for dt290/dt190 , it served the second purpose, making my office desk tidy, but the cable is still too bulky and stiff to be perfect for portable use (it is already better than the stock coiled cable).  I think you will have to soldering a 3.5mm socket in the 7 pin adapter and use an AUX cable with it or soldering a slim cable all the way through the adapter. Either way, you need some soldering skill, tools and parts. 

 

Drive-ability: dt250-250 is pretty easy to drive despite its 250ohm impedance as far as i am concerned. i can get satisfying volume from my iphone5 and sans clip +(rockboxed), but dt250 will sure benefit from an amp. Fiio e07/e17 could be a good choice, acting as portable amp or even an DAC if you can get the USB OTG working on your Galaxy Note2. 

post #637 of 684

I recently got these out of storage (250 ohm) and they sound really great for a closed can. Fact is, they are up there with best ones I have, and they are fairly comfortable for longer sessions. 

 

What disturbs me a bit is comparing these to my HD280's which then sound so utterly terrible i'm tempted to throw them in the garbage. This is the risk I take :wink_face: 

 

fact is, I got a number of high quality cans out from storage and have been testing them (not listening to music, but testing headphones (which is actually a bit idiotic). Anyway, my conclusion is at a certain level they are all pretty much the same; that is -great. Just take your pick, use them for a while, then switch. Fun stuff. 


Edited by fritz1234 - 12/11/13 at 9:31pm
post #638 of 684
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Originally Posted by AustinValentine View Post

 

So what PMP's do you use with your DT250-250? If you use a smartphone, how do you circumvent how difficult they are to drive? 

 

 

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Originally Posted by dahoo View Post
Fiio e07/e17 could be a good choice, acting as portable amp or even an DAC if you can get the USB OTG working on your Galaxy Note2. 

 

+1 on the e17, works well.  The 250s tend to drain my Samsung Galaxy III very quickly.  I use a micro USB OTG cable to the E17 and USB Audio Recorder for playback.
post #639 of 684

I've just got to add my love for the DT250's here. This thread helped me get them on the short list.

 

I posted a comparison to the DT770 LE's on the DT770 LE thread, as I was also interested in them too: shorter lead and perhaps easier to drive from portable.

 

Since I'm also interested in a lighter cable, I have posted a couple of options further on down in the same discussion. I should probably move further chat about that to either this thread, or a new one. I'm new here, so don't know the proper etiquette.

 

But yes, I'm also interested if anyone has anything ready made. I suspect I shall have to plod on to do it myself.

post #640 of 684
Thread Starter 

Make sure you get the 250 ohm version. Too many people get the 80 ohm version thinking they are similar enough only ending up selling it because of the flaws that aren't in the 250 ohm version to begin with.

post #641 of 684

so does the e17 (so therefore e18) have enough power to relay get the 250ohm's going ? im was planning on getting the dt250 250 and e18 for out and about ( noisy city centre ) but was then concerned there may not be enough drive in the amp. EDIT.... a little more reading back in this thread and still slightly mixed messages but i think it should suffice ? 


Edited by wayward91 - 12/15/13 at 12:38pm
post #642 of 684
Thread Starter 

e18 should be fine

post #643 of 684
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Originally Posted by wayward91 View Post
 

so does the e17 (so therefore e18) have enough power to relay get the 250ohm's going ? im was planning on getting the dt250 250 and e18 for out and about ( noisy city centre ) but was then concerned there may not be enough drive in the amp. EDIT.... a little more reading back in this thread and still slightly mixed messages but i think it should suffice ? 

 

FiiO E17 or E18 DAC/amps or E11/E12 amps are definitely enough to power the DT250-250. I've taken to using the E11 with mine for now.

 

The DT250's isolation doesn't seem to be that great for noisy city scapes though. Definitely not in the same caliber as the Amperior/HD25-II, V-Moda M-100, Logitech UE6000, or Shure 840 for isolation. I'm using these for my daily commute in to the Chicago Loop and they just don't block anywhere near enough noise on the L. I find myself putting the volume up higher to compensate for the extra outside noise, which is far from ideal.

post #644 of 684

         Cheers fellas :)

 and ahh right. I have the hd25 c ii’s now but after going between them and my akg’s I miss the ehh , greater finesse of the akg’s (as a side note,  its not so much and issue between them but they are better isolation than the hd25’s) . its just they are a little big looking , and your shadow defiantly resembles that of a cyber-man. ill have to have another think . people go iem but i cant stand the noise they make when you walk along (i do lots of walking) i have the sony xba3 's and they have to be loud just so i dont hear my own walking.

post #645 of 684

Great thread, haven’t gone through it all yet, though.

I'll probably be getting a pair of DT-250-250 tomorrow to try out. Hoping for a better experience than the DT-770 pro.

I’ll post my experience with the 250’s if and when I get my hands on them.   

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